Yes it did.. that's why the president was kicked out of office.Any thoughts, @bhlee0019
Yes it did.. that's why the president was kicked out of office.Any thoughts, @bhlee0019
And apparently, the head of Scotland-Ireland's famous Three Stars corporation (OOC: Samsung means Three Stars in Korean) is also implicated in the scandal as well. Also, what do you think of that timeline where the Shun fail to take over China due to Li Zicheng alienating Wu Sangui and Aurangzeb took over the Mughal Empire, leading to a Eurocentric world as opposed to a "Europe among equals" world we have?Yes it did.. that's why the president was kicked out of office.
Pretty good that timeline was.And apparently, the head of Scotland-Ireland's famous Three Stars corporation (OOC: Samsung means Three Stars in Korean) is also implicated in the scandal as well. Also, what do you think of that timeline where the Shun fail to take over China due to Li Zicheng alienating Wu Sangui and Aurangzeb took over the Mughal Empire, leading to a Eurocentric world as opposed to a "Europe among equals" world we have?
Which parts do you like the most and which parts are the most unrealistic to you and why?Pretty good that timeline was.
That TL was realistic in the fact that this could lead to europe being that country, but it had that Japan, not korea pulling a Holland[1], it was somewhat unrealistic.Which parts do you like the most and which parts are the most unrealistic to you and why?
It depends on whether he tries to impose his Islamic beliefs on the populace or not.From what I've read, Aurangzeb was apparently more devoutly Islamic, than Dara Shikoh, who created the modern religious syncretic tradition of modern Mughal emperors. How would Hindus and Sikhs react to Aurangzeb as emperor.
Spanish attempt to take down shun dynasty resulted in a war. This war resulted in shun victory.So, @bhlee0019 and @theg*ddam*hoi2fan, how much did the catastrophe that was the Spanish attempt to restore the Southern Ming (or more accurately, the Yongli Emperor) contribute to the decline of Spain (along with the Shun-Dutch alliance) and why?
It contributed greatly. After all, it's why the floundering King Philip launched the "Gold Raids" on Japanese Mexico afterward. The Spanish treasury had been ruined by their failure in China.So, @bhlee0019 and @theg*ddam*hoi2fan, how much did the catastrophe that was the Spanish attempt to restore the Southern Ming (or more accurately, the Yongli Emperor) contribute to the decline of Spain (along with the Shun-Dutch alliance) and why?
OOC: Well, the OP effectively stated that the POD was in the 17th century so the "Gold Raids" being aimed at West Africa would make more sense.It contributed greatly. After all, it's why the floundering King Philip launched the "Gold Raids" on Japanese Mexico afterward. The Spanish treasury had been ruined by their failure in China.
So, @bhlee0019 and @theg*ddam*hoi2fan, how much did the catastrophe that was the Spanish attempt to restore the Southern Ming (or more accurately, the Yongli Emperor) contribute to the decline of Spain (along with the Shun-Dutch alliance) and why?
Spanish attempt to take down shun dynasty resulted in a war. This war resulted in shun victory.
I could argue the final phase of the 40 Years War (OOC: TTL's term for 30 Years War, which ITTL is seen to include the fighting between Spain and France post-Treaty of Westphalia along with the fighting between Ming Loyalists/Spain v.s Dutch/Shun China/Japan) was the first global conflict due to the Spanish expedition to China which got destroyed in Fujian (along with the forces of one Zheng Chenggong) by a Shun army led by the Yongchang Emperor himself leading to the Shun allying with the Dutch. Also, why do you think did the Shun Dynasty successfully industrialize and have it's independent Industrial Revolution?It also resulted in the Shun being able to reach out to Nihon. They'd been worried about Spanish subversion and invasion already, and this made them think it was coming. Their invasion of the Philippines stopped the Spanish having a friendly port closer than Goa. And led to China and Japan becoming much closer.