Look, you are making no real sense here Boondoc. By involving ourselves in these countries affairs, we invite nuclear attack. It's that simple. If there was a time that this might have been avoided, it would have been in 2000-02, before the extreme
And you have a rather selective sense of morality here as well--India, Pakistan and Russia are all at least nominally democratic, and this is what they've chosen. Sure, there is extreme poverty in those countries--but a lot of that is because they've just trashed each others economies. And guess why that's happening. Yeah, its the nukes.
Sure, unemployment rates are high and these nations have widespread suffering. They're probably also going to have to deal with the massive disease outbreaks that have been directly caused by their actions. If you'd like to discuss economic incentives, I suggest you take a hard look at Russia and China, both of which had large trade surpluses with the United States. And did you really think that the USA doling out money to this countries is REALLY going to improve the situation on the ground--no, it would instead go right into the hands of governments you claim act against the interests of their people.
Also, that's not what the Gore Doctrine is at all (indeed, the second post in this thread calls for all-out exodus from these regions). That's the position of the Swiss government.
This peacekeeping effort means putting OUR MEN and WOMEN between a massive pile of nuclear weapons. You also know that we have a draft in place because of large numbers of terrorist incidents--I know I'm certainly not willing to die because the douches want to nuke each other. Since I'd be likely to get drafted to meatshield between these insane regimes, I think you clearly ask too much of me, of my country and of the world.
These insane leaders are going to wipe each other out. The best we can hope to do is to make sure that we aren't wiped out with them. Ethnic bigotry? How about survival? Like I or any country in the world wants to support a pile of murderers because financial assistance might be worth the risk of a nuclear holocaust in America. Sooner or later this whole thing is going to end and its going to be sooner because these nations are only going to radicalize after these actions. No peacekeeping effort would prevail over a massive country determined to kill others and at least tolerant of a nuclear retaliation in response. In all likelihood though, the CIA reports are correct--they are all very, very insane and probably going to press all of the buttons very soon.
OOC: The world is doomed. You can site all the thoughts of doom you want, but citykilling is a step far beyond anything this world has ever seen. I again refer you to On Nuclear War. And it should seem very basic that killing civilians increases a willingness to fight, hence the ineffectiveness of bombing raids in WW2 on Civilian Morale.
And you have a rather selective sense of morality here as well--India, Pakistan and Russia are all at least nominally democratic, and this is what they've chosen. Sure, there is extreme poverty in those countries--but a lot of that is because they've just trashed each others economies. And guess why that's happening. Yeah, its the nukes.
Sure, unemployment rates are high and these nations have widespread suffering. They're probably also going to have to deal with the massive disease outbreaks that have been directly caused by their actions. If you'd like to discuss economic incentives, I suggest you take a hard look at Russia and China, both of which had large trade surpluses with the United States. And did you really think that the USA doling out money to this countries is REALLY going to improve the situation on the ground--no, it would instead go right into the hands of governments you claim act against the interests of their people.
Also, that's not what the Gore Doctrine is at all (indeed, the second post in this thread calls for all-out exodus from these regions). That's the position of the Swiss government.
This peacekeeping effort means putting OUR MEN and WOMEN between a massive pile of nuclear weapons. You also know that we have a draft in place because of large numbers of terrorist incidents--I know I'm certainly not willing to die because the douches want to nuke each other. Since I'd be likely to get drafted to meatshield between these insane regimes, I think you clearly ask too much of me, of my country and of the world.
These insane leaders are going to wipe each other out. The best we can hope to do is to make sure that we aren't wiped out with them. Ethnic bigotry? How about survival? Like I or any country in the world wants to support a pile of murderers because financial assistance might be worth the risk of a nuclear holocaust in America. Sooner or later this whole thing is going to end and its going to be sooner because these nations are only going to radicalize after these actions. No peacekeeping effort would prevail over a massive country determined to kill others and at least tolerant of a nuclear retaliation in response. In all likelihood though, the CIA reports are correct--they are all very, very insane and probably going to press all of the buttons very soon.
OOC: The world is doomed. You can site all the thoughts of doom you want, but citykilling is a step far beyond anything this world has ever seen. I again refer you to On Nuclear War. And it should seem very basic that killing civilians increases a willingness to fight, hence the ineffectiveness of bombing raids in WW2 on Civilian Morale.