DBAHC: A Polish Nation?

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1789 onward was an era of absolute Russian, Prussian, and Austrian dominance. After the Polish Partition of 1795, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was eliminated as a state. Despite Jan Henryk Dąbrowski's attempts to liberate Poland afterward, the boundaries of the Third Partition were solidified, and Russification and Germanization began.

Today Polish language is a rare and little known language like Basque. But could it have been different? Could there have been not just a flourishing Polish country, but a Polish national identity surviving beyond the Partitions?
 
but a Polish national identity surviving beyond the Partitions?
Have you ever been to the Grand Duchy?
Sure the language is mostly dead, and most Poles consider themselves Russian before all else, but they still have one of the most distinct regional identities in all the Russias.
 
1789 onward was an era of absolute Russian, Prussian, and Austrian dominance.
Sorry to be pedantic, but that should be "was the start of", and you might add "in Eastern Europe" for clarification -- the way that's written kind of implies, for example, that Austria is still an empire, when of course that's not the case; Russia's still a world power, though that didn't exactly start with the annexation of Poland (though definitions there do vary).

OOC: The Hapsburg Monarchy was definitely on the decline circa 1789, and the HRE, while not necessarily doomed, was not going to be the basis for renewed Austrian power anytime soon. I'll leave it to future discussion what happens to a now more Polish Prussia TTL.
 
Ehh if you can have the Russians and Prussians have a falling out the poles could have a chance, the down side being that Poland would end up being the battle ground.
But the Russo-prussian has been firm ever since Peter III
 

kernals12

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If Tsar Nicholas II had for some reason chosen to go to war with Austria in 1914 after Sarajevo crisis, perhaps Germany would get drawn in and start a war massive enough to devastate both countries and allow the Poles to form their own nation. But the Tsar would've had to be pretty stupid to get drawn into something like that.
 

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If Tsar Nicholas II had for some reason chosen to go to war with Austria in 1914 after Sarajevo crisis, perhaps Germany would get drawn in and start a war massive enough to devastate both countries and allow the Poles to form their own nation. But the Tsar would've had to be pretty stupid to get drawn into something like that.
Yeah while Russia and Prussia/Germany had a rough relationship in the 20th century, the Tsar and Kaiser alike knew to avoid war between them lest Poland, Bohemia, and the Baltics break free.
 
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