DB: Where do you stand on Slavic land rights? [OOC: A Nazi Victory TL]

I'm interested to find out what you think about the whole issue of Slavs in the eastern Greater German Reich - claims to land that was colonised, apology and compensation for displacement and slavery, the recent trend of "recognising the traditional Slavic owners of the land", etc.

My opinion: I'm against it, all of it. There are very few Slavs alive today who was enslaved by the GGR, and the present-day Reich government should not be held accountable for the actions of generations past. Why should we have to apologise for something we ourselves didn't do? And why should Slavs today be "compensated" for land they never possessed? In any case, it's been over a century since Germany took over and colonised eastern Europe - time to get over it, don't you think?

I'm not racist, but to be frank I am sick of Slavic whining.

(OOC: The year is circa 2050, and I'm writing as an Aryan German. ITTL, the GGR went through some major reforms in the 1990s.)

EDIT: (OOC: A little more elaboration on this. I came up with this when I realised how we in Australia don't consider ourselves to have conquered the Aboriginal nations on the continent - instead we say we "colonised" the continent. The word "colonise" seems to me to sanitise what our nation did - to conveniently ignore the fact that we slaughtered people and took over their land. And to me that seems incredibly dehumanising, as it doesn't even acknowledge that the Aboriginal nations were there. The same applies to the USA: they say they colonised North America, that they settled in the west - not that they invaded American Indian nations and took over the land while killing most of the inhabitants.

And it occurred to me that, if the Nazis won WW2 and later the nation reformed and liberalised, you'd probably have a similar situation. Germans wouldn't say they conquered eastern Europe & western Russia - they'd say they colonised it. The fact that the Slavic peoples were living there first would tend to be ignored in common speech, so that the GGR could treat its history as honourable. And of course you'd have German "culture wars" where the right-wing side would sneer at the "black armband view of history", just as the likes of John Howard and Keith Windschuttle do in Australia today.

By the way, this is probably obvious but in this TL Slavic citizens of the GGR are equal under the law, but are very disadvantaged in areas such as health, wealth, education, incarceration rates, life expectancy, etc.)
 
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Valdemar II

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I'm against it, for several reason most of these "hidden Slavs" is nothing but a bunch opportunists, who don't speak any Slavic languages and have been citizens for generations, plus several proffs of ownership, show that their ancestors has lost/sold their land long before annextion of West Slavia* or the steppes. Beside several say their ancestors was Slavic people, who in truth had died out had been assimilated long before the 3rd Realm, I met a Mecklenburgian who attacked the German state for it mistreatment of his Abodrite ancestors:rolleyes:.
 
(OOC: The year is circa 2050, and I'm writing as an Aryan German. ITTL, the GGR went through some major reforms in the 1990s.)... just as the likes of John Howard and Keith Windschuttle do in Australia today

Not playing a character: The ATL Howard and Windschuttle are fighting a history war (like OTL's history war) as one-hundred-and-ten-year-olds?
 
Not playing a character: The ATL Howard and Windschuttle are fighting a history war (like OTL's history war) as one-hundred-and-ten-year-olds?
OOC: That comparison is in another set of OOC brackets. OOC stands for "out of character", in other words commenting as yourself in OTL 2009.
 
OOC: That comparison is in another set of OOC brackets. OOC stands for "out of character", in other words commenting as yourself in OTL 2009.

Oh, I reckon 'Not playing a character' is an acceptable alternative to OOC if you're not planning on getting into C in the first place.:p

But, yes, I misread the reference to Rodent & PolPotlover being out of character.
 
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