Days of Infamy: Invasion, Occupation, and Liberation of Hawaii (1941-1943)

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  1. lordroel Well-Known Member

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    Yes, they here used by the Japanese to fix damages to a airfield.
     
  2. Alterwright "You were never even a player."

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    Hah. Makes sense then. It would be hard to get more equipment like that to Hawaii too. If the dozers are done, the Japanese would have to make do with working by hand then.
     
  3. Alterwright "You were never even a player."

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    Well while were on the subject of tanks for the Royal Hawaiian Army, if they were ever going to make their own experimental tank based off a civilian tractor, I have a candidate. The Mercier Armored Tractor used by Spain during its civil war could be a good reference for a Bob Semple like tank.
     
  4. Alterwright "You were never even a player."

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    That, or perhaps something like the Odessa Tank.

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  5. Bbone91 I have no powers but I can skip reasonably well.

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    of course, this is assuming that the Japanese occupiers are comfortable letting their puppets have armor.
     
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  6. Alterwright "You were never even a player."

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    I don't see why not. A few Japanese puppet states and co-beligerents were issued with Japanese planes and tanks, such as the Royal Thai Army. I believe scale would count more in this case. King Stanley would get nothing more than handful of Ha-Go tanks at best, but the bulk would be reserved for the Japanese. They could run in to the same problem they had with airplanes though --- that is find Hawaiians small enough to fit in the dang things.
     
  7. lordroel Well-Known Member

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    But would that make sense, the Royal Hawaiian Army is not more than a battalion in size if i am correct.
     
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  8. Bbone91 I have no powers but I can skip reasonably well.

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    And it varies wildly in dedication and skill from person to person, as seen in The End of the Beginning.
     
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  9. lordroel Well-Known Member

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    So a having a armored detachment is in my eyes a waste of resources that the Japanese can better use themselves.
     
  10. Matt Wiser Well-Known Member

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    That's pretty much it. They will keep the puppet king happy with what passes for his own army and air force, but no more than that.

    As for those who signed up? I'll bet that quite a few of them joined just to get three full meals a day. Those folks are likely the ones who gave up easily when the Marines came in. The die-hards, though....
     
  11. lordroel Well-Known Member

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    Wonder how many of those extreme loyal Hawaiian soldiers are criminals and crooks.
     
  12. Matt Wiser Well-Known Member

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    Does make you wonder. People with nothing to gain and a lot to lose when the U.S. retakes the islands would fight to the end, because they know what would happen: either a firing squad or a noose for Treason.
     
  13. Bbone91 I have no powers but I can skip reasonably well.

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    Not quite true. In The End of the Beginning, some of the Royal Army apparently fired off a few rounds just to say that ‘we fought’ into the air and surrendered to the Marines. While some would likely be tried for treason, others would likely be regarded as just doing what they had to to survive and let off with light sentences. There’s also a Japanese gardener who collaborated with the Japanese, but never once abused his authority and actually tried to help Americans when possible.
     
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    Also, remember some collaborators were given a choice of either facing military justice, or facing their former neighbors by running a gauntlet.
     
  15. Bbone91 I have no powers but I can skip reasonably well.

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    Thats what happened to the gardener and the Madame. She got a taste of mob justice, he didn’t.
     
  16. rob2001 Well-Known Member

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    It also happened to the used car salesman. Also, if I remember correctly any woman who willingly slept with a Japanese soldier, got the same treatment that French women got for sleeping with German soldiers.
     
  17. Alterwright "You were never even a player."

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    Jeez, even used car salesmen trying to make a buck during the occupation weren't spared huh.
     
  18. lordroel Well-Known Member

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    Doubt there where many cars running when the American invasion came in 1943, most likely the Japanese had secured all fuel for themselves.
     
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    They did. It is shown in the book that Genda of all people had to use a bicycle than being escorted in a personal government car. This is one of many signs how utterly screwed the Japanese were.
     
  20. lordroel Well-Known Member

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    A i have read that part, Genda had to ride the bicycle because he was not important enough to get a car when he went to the royal palace.