Cut the Shit: No Ultimatums in WW1

The idea is simple. No ultimatums are given to any nation in world war 1. Because of this actual strategic surprise is achieved when the Germans attack Belgium. There is less time to prepare.

What would happen. Discuss!
 
1. Nobody would be prepared for war in this instance. Pretty much every country's warplan at the time involved intricate mobilization plans which took advantage of the ultimatums and diplomatic wrangling to come into effect. If the war just suddenly starts, then none of the major powers is in a position to carry out its warplans expect with what forces are actually deployed on the relevant borders, which will hamper the conduct of the war. Even asuming that the declarations of war are roughly the same, each country will be frantically mobilizing and either trying to strike before their opponent can or finish preparations for an actual war. It is quite likely that by the time any country sorts itself out enough and is sufficiently mobilized to go on the offensive according to their original plans, the rest are ready enough to stand them off, and stalemate occurs much sooner on most fronts.

2. Diplomatically, Austria loses. Yes, their heir was shot and killed, but then suddenly the AUstrian army pours into Serbia on a flimsy justification and with no warning. A lot of people are going to be taken by surprise, and many will not be particularly thrilled by this course of action. It is possible that the allaince structures shape up differently, or that Germany declines to support Austria, thus aborting world war one.

3. Ultimatums were how diplomacy of this type was carried out at the time. It was pretty rare just waltzed into a neighbor without some sort of protracted warning or diplomatic incident. Due to a mix of military and diplomatic factors, the idea of a sneak attack of the sort you polstulate would be dismissed out of hand by many in positions of power at the time.

BTW, this goes in after 1900
 

MrP

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IIRC, it shouldn't make much difference to the composition of the initial German forces in Belgium. Ludendorff, IIRC, had drafted a pre-war plan for a coup-de-main using standing troops. It seems it would be more successful if the Belgians had no time in which to mobilise, but I don't have Belgian mobilisation times at my fingertips, I'm afraid.
 
3. Ultimatums were how diplomacy of this type was carried out at the time. It was pretty rare just waltzed into a neighbor without some sort of protracted warning or diplomatic incident. Due to a mix of military and diplomatic factors, the idea of a sneak attack of the sort you polstulate would be dismissed out of hand by many in positions of power at the time.

I agree fully with this.
 
The idea is simple. No ultimatums are given to any nation in world war 1. Because of this actual strategic surprise is achieved when the Germans attack Belgium. There is less time to prepare.

What would happen. Discuss!

I don't think any of this is likely since - at least in the case of Germany - most nations wanted to hit their enemies with the full might of their military strength. Do you think anybody in France would miss the large declarations going out in German newspapers about mobilization?
 
The idea is simple. No ultimatums are given to any nation in world war 1. Because of this actual strategic surprise is achieved when the Germans attack Belgium. There is less time to prepare.

What would happen. Discuss!
Consider WWII. One of the reasons that the US got so mad at Japan was because the attack at Pearl was BEFORE the declaration of war. If Austria attacks Serbia without a DoW and ultimatum, they may well be fighting alone against Russia (who would come to Serbia's defense). There may even be French participation against AH.

Germany went to war on Austria's side - they are rather unlikely to START a war with an attack on France IMO.
 
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