Culture of a world where WW1 was averted

Why would it be?
Spaghetti Carbonara was a creation of WWII US army rations and Italian Pasta, Spring Roll a combination of leftover Austrian Apfelstrudel dough with leftover Chinese vegetables, that got combined by a Jewish refugee in Shanghai ca. 1940 and proved to be a big deal.
 
Spaghetti Carbonara was a creation of WWII US army rations and Italian Pasta, Spring Roll a combination of leftover Austrian Apfelstrudel dough with leftover Chinese vegetables, that got combined by a Jewish refugee in Shanghai ca. 1940 and proved to be a big deal.
I don't think it will be butterflied away completely. A similar recipe could be created by luck by another person.
 
I don't think it will be butterflied away completely. A similar recipe could be created by luck by another person.

But if the Italians can't claim to have come up with it themselves, they probably denounce it as abomination, like pizza with a certain exotic fruit on it in OTL.
 
But if the Italians can't claim to have come up with it themselves, they probably denounce it as abomination, like pizza with a certain exotic fruit on it in OTL.
Now since we are in the topic of food, I think having no WWI would butterfly fast-food culture in the U.S. or at least delay it by decades. Fast-food culture arose from diner culture, which occurred after President Eisenhower signed the National Highway Act in 1956. The NHA itself was a result of the post-WWII baby boom so surburbs were created and people did not need to live in a city to work in a city.
 
Now since we are in the topic of food, I think having no WWI would butterfly fast-food culture in the U.S. or at least delay it by decades. Fast-food culture arose from diner culture, which occurred after President Eisenhower signed the National Highway Act in 1956. The NHA itself was a result of the post-WWII baby boom so surburbs were created and people did not need to live in a city to work in a city.
The oldest US fast food chain is White Castle (which operates mostly in the Midwest) and that was started in the 20s which was successful because they marketed themselves as a cheap and clean restaurant while also being very distinctive. There were numerous regional chains like that in the 20s/30s, some of which still exist.
 
Now since we are in the topic of food, I think having no WWI would butterfly fast-food culture in the U.S. or at least delay it by decades. Fast-food culture arose from diner culture, which occurred after President Eisenhower signed the National Highway Act in 1956. The NHA itself was a result of the post-WWII baby boom so surburbs were created and people did not need to live in a city to work in a city.

Probably there would be still lot of fast food chains but these wouldn't are very spread. If there is MacDonalds or soemthing like that it is not going spread much outside of its country or even home state. And probably French fries (or whatever name it would be called) is not that famous and probably would stay just as Belgian food. And might be that hamburgers are not thing outside of North America. And probably pizzsa is hard to find outside of Mediterranean region. Probably even pasta is same case. So European food culture would be very localised.
 
Probably there would be still lot of fast food chains but these wouldn't are very spread. If there is MacDonalds or soemthing like that it is not going spread much outside of its country or even home state. And probably French fries (or whatever name it would be called) is not that famous and probably would stay just as Belgian food. And might be that hamburgers are not thing outside of North America. And probably pizzsa is hard to find outside of Mediterranean region. Probably even pasta is same case. So European food culture would be very localised.
Part of the spread of mediterranean food is due to tourism and migration, which might as well happen in this TL as ours.
 
The oldest US fast food chain is White Castle (which operates mostly in the Midwest) and that was started in the 20s which was successful because they marketed themselves as a cheap and clean restaurant while also being very distinctive. There were numerous regional chains like that in the 20s/30s, some of which still exist.
I learn something new everyday. But it took until 1950s onwards for chains like McDo and KFC to become popular.
Probably there would be still lot of fast food chains but these wouldn't are very spread. If there is MacDonalds or soemthing like that it is not going spread much outside of its country or even home state. And probably French fries (or whatever name it would be called) is not that famous and probably would stay just as Belgian food. And might be that hamburgers are not thing outside of North America. And probably pizzsa is hard to find outside of Mediterranean region. Probably even pasta is same case. So European food culture would be very localised.
Part of the spread of mediterranean food is due to tourism and migration, which might as well happen in this TL as ours.
So there won't be American-style Pizza? If I read correctly regarding the start of Shakey's Pizza, it was formed after WWII. So pizza here would probably remain Italian for quite some time. Mediterranean food would be localized.
 
Probably there would be still lot of fast food chains but these wouldn't are very spread. If there is MacDonalds or soemthing like that it is not going spread much outside of its country or even home state. And probably French fries (or whatever name it would be called) is not that famous and probably would stay just as Belgian food. And might be that hamburgers are not thing outside of North America. And probably pizzsa is hard to find outside of Mediterranean region. Probably even pasta is same case. So European food culture would be very localised.

Fried potatoes arent exactly a hard to export concept. Some forms of it certainly existed in the United States prior to 1914. Also the US had a large enough Italian American population by 1914 that pizza was probably going to at least become a regionally popular dish. Pizza became widespread in Argentina due to Italian immigrants there without the intermediary of US chains and culture.
 
I learn something new everyday. But it took until 1950s onwards for chains like McDo and KFC to become popular.
Because that's when those chains were invented. I think it's pretty much inevitable for some business to become a nationally successful fast food franchise (and others to follow) once you have the interstate which isn't exactly a consequence of a "no WWI" TL. There were plenty of incentives to improve roads in the US and eventually some elements of it might be federal, the only difference it would be on a state-by-state basis which would keep large chains with only minimal presence in some areas.
 
So there won't be American-style Pizza? If I read correctly regarding the start of Shakey's Pizza, it was formed after WWII. So pizza here would probably remain Italian for quite some time. Mediterranean food would be localized.
OTL American react to No pizza in TLWW
 
The European film industry would progress and it would be a three-way competition between the British the Germans and the Americans, leading to a little more creativity
Culture would remain as it was and not as homogamist as it became because European and American cultures did not come into close contact on the fronts of the first World War
There would be a lot less social progress because women will not have had to have gone to work in the factories for World War I and there would be more men available to fill the jobs that had to be taken by minorities and women because they were not enough men to fill them
Not necessarily without WW1 the Liberal Party wouid not split so The interwar perlod would not be dominated by the Tories. The Irish Home Rule process might have succeeded. Certainly the post war reassert ion of traditional values that included the FA banning Women would not happen. So perhaps as much if not more progress only steadier
 
Why no israel? There's still uganda as an option.
To my knowledge, the proposal was not to settle Jews in Uganda as such, but on the Uganda-Kenya borderlands, where white settlers had been sniffing around in search of land to grab for a while - something that the Brits in charge of Uganda wanted to avoid, as they knew it would provoke a great big local African backlash.
 
Eh, they'd probably smooth it over with the local settlers by offering a bigger garrison and looking the other way re: more uh severe treatment of the local africans.

Considering the treatment of the caucasian palestinians in OTL. ISrael in Uganda with the natives being africans and in a context where the peak golden age of racism just fades away gradually. Well, you probably wouldn't want to be african in uganda in ttl.
 
Women would have to wait anything from 10 to 50 years longer to get the vote without WW1 and WW2. Anti-Semitism is more common in the West with no Holocaust in this timeline, and Colonialism lasts for at least 20 years longer and maybe much longer. Racism is more common.

On the plus side-Nazism and Fascism if it exists at all at the most has a few MPs on the fringes with no chance of getting into power, and Communism most likely can't get into power either. Eastern Europe still has vibrant Jewish communities, persecuted occasionally, but nothing like the Holocaust. America remains a largely sleeping giant. Tsarism whilst bad, is not as bad as Lenin and Stalin were. The UK and France are still superpowers.

So there is some bad and some good as well.
Likely the Armenian and Greek populations of Anatolia, as well as the Assyrian populations of Urfa would be preserved as well, since the Genocide was undertaken under the cover of WW1
 
Item: IMO, Prohibition in the US is never enacted. IMO, it was passed at a moment when government took control of everything in the name of the war effort, and drinking was seen as damaging to that effort.

Item: there would be no Russian revolution (or at least not for many more years). The Imperial government's antisemitic policies would continue, and million of additional Jews would emigrate to the US, the British Empire, or any other receptive country. If OTL is anything to go by, this would mean significant additional artistic, scientific, and economic achievements in those countries.

But also: OTL, WW I largely shut down immigration to the US, which had peaked in the previous decade. Immigration resumed after the war, though at lower levels, was restricted further by mid-20s legislation, and stopped almost completely during the Depression. If no WW I, mass immigration continues until nativist reaction brings restrictive laws - probably sooner than OTL.
 
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A world without socialist realism would be a sad place.
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As someone from an ex-communist country: NO. Both for artistic and humanitarian reasons. I mean have you seen city centers surrounded by mostly neo classical style building - with a soc real monstrosity shat in the middle of it to destroy the whole picture? Like sore wounds on the fabric of the cities.
 
Item: IMO, Prohibition in the US is never enacted. IMO, it was passed at a moment when government took control of everything in the name of the war effort, and drinking was seen as damaging to that effort.

USA might not pass prohibiton on federal level but probably many states do that anyway. And there was too prhibition movements in other places anyway.

Item: there would be no Russian revolution (or at least not for many more years). The Imperial government's antisemitic policies would continue, and million of additional Jews would emigrate to the US, the British Empire, or any other receptive country. If OTL is anything to go by, this would mean significant additional artistic, scientific, and economic achievements in those countries.

Russian revolution was almost inevitable. That tsarist system just can't survive. Either Russia becomes fully constitutional monarchy or republic. Regarding pogroms, I don't see them continuing endlessly. Probably these would end at some point even if Russia would has still antisemtic legistature.

But also: OTL, WW I largely shut down immigration to the US, which had peaked in the previous decade. Immigration resumed after the war, though at lower levels, was restricted further by mid-20s legislation, and stopped almost completely during the Depression. If no WW I, mass immigration continues until nativist reaction brings restrictive laws - probably sooner than OTL.

I don't know how immigration policy is going to change without WW1 but it would be much strickter in many places since racism and antisemitism would be on presence much longer and without Holocaust no one begin to think that persecuted people should get safe haven.
 
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