Cuba in Alternate History...

I posted a "Wank All Three North American States" rough TL a few weeks ago and this inspired me to think about it.

I'm thinking in that timeline, Cuba will be part of the Carlist exiled Spanish Empire centered in Mexico City, but as the outlying regions of the empire revolt and the U.S. jumps on Mexico's back, I figure they'd grab Cuba too.

In my Steampunk TL, the CSA attempts to invade Cuba in the later 19th Century and their navy gets thrashed and their army gets stranded and much of the soldiery dies of disease before a peace treaty leads to them being repatriated.

Not sure what else happens to Cuba in that scenario though.
 
No one ever seems to have a Cuba that wins independence during the early 1800s. A shame. No one ever seems to remember that the criollo aristocracy planned on shaking off Spanish rule in 1811-1812.

EDIT: Of course there's that thing about it being tied to Spain's colonial economy but that sure didn't stop the other countries.

The main reason Cuba attempted nothing at that time was because the Criollos shat their pants big time when they saw what happened in Hispaniola.

Personally, I planned to have Cuba go independent in about 1915 under 'special' circunstances. Now, I never got that far, so...
 
No one ever seems to have a Cuba that wins independence during the early 1800s. A shame. No one ever seems to remember that the criollo aristocracy planned on shaking off Spanish rule in 1811-1812.

EDIT: Of course there's that thing about it being tied to Spain's colonial economy but that sure didn't stop the other countries.
Actually for the most part it did. The first regions to break away from Spain were Venezuela and Argentina, which were newly prosperous areas of the Spanish colonial empire that were not tied into the Spanish trade system and had a more independent economic structure. Peru and Mexico, the two regions most tied into the Spanish colonial economic system, were the last to gain independence, and Peru was pretty much forced to.

With regards to Cuba, there's also the fact that the Haitian Revolution was still fresh in the minds of many in the Cuban aristocracy. Since all the independence movements in Spanish America in the early 1800s were prompted by the colonial elites, the elites in Cuba did not want to risk a slave uprising on their own shores by throwing off the Spanish crown and weakening themselves.
 
Well, in my ATL Cuba ends up independent and with relatively less US cultural influence and there's no real Cuban Missile Crisis equivalent to OTL. While in my TL-191 revision, Cuba winds up a sore point in CS-Spanish relations and winds up returning to Spanish rule after the ATL WWII. With the CS "purchase" owing to a desperate decision in a Spanish Civil War. The problem with Cuba and independence is that due to its being retained by Spain longer a sufficiently bold US government and sufficiently strong one is likely to try to grab Cuba to show its increasing geopolitical power like in 1898 IOTL.
 

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It seems like ATL in regards to Cuba generally falls into one of three categories

1) The USA takes it over and it eventually ends up as a state
2) The CSA takes it over and it eventually ends up as a state (or some combination with 1) )
3) World War III starts over the embargo.

In that regards World War Z was actually pretty refreshing. (At the end of it, Cuba is probably one of the best places in the world to live)

Anyone seen anything significantly different?

I used to love this uchronie and I find it lamentable that it's no longer being continued: https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=155696&page=2.
 
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