CSA Wins WI: How would the border states have been dealt with in peace negotiations?

frlmerrin

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Dear me this geographic obsession some people have is driving some very wrong headed thinking here. The Vietnam model is almost a perfect model for the way a free CSA would end up with all the border states and over the next decade far more besides as political will to address the problem slumps in the Union. There is no useful correlation at all with the American rebellion against the true crown. Off topic I suspect that a good model of it might be the Nine rebellion?
 

Saphroneth

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Dear me this geographic obsession some people have is driving some very wrong headed thinking here. The Vietnam model is almost a perfect model for the way a free CSA would end up with all the border states and over the next decade far more besides as political will to address the problem slumps in the Union. There is no useful correlation at all with the American rebellion against the true crown. Off topic I suspect that a good model of it might be the Nine rebellion?
Okay, if the Vietnam model is a good one, why?
If the American Revolution is a bad one, why? (They certainly saw a correlation at the time - Southerners called it 'the second American Revolution' amongst themselves.)
And which are you making an analogy to the Nine rebellion with? The ACW? Vietnam? The ARW?
Because, unlike all three of those, the rebellion that lead to the Nine Years' War was... comprehensively crushed.
 
Dear me this geographic obsession some people have is driving some very wrong headed thinking here. The Vietnam model is almost a perfect model for the way a free CSA would end up with all the border states and over the next decade far more besides as political will to address the problem slumps in the Union. There is no useful correlation at all with the American rebellion against the true crown. Off topic I suspect that a good model of it might be the Nine rebellion?

Hmmm. I can see the similarities between the Confederacy and Vietnam.

One is a peasant society.

The other is a slave-ocracy.

Oh wait! There are no similarities at all!
 
Dear me this geographic obsession some people have is driving some very wrong headed thinking here. The Vietnam model is almost a perfect model for the way a free CSA would end up with all the border states and over the next decade far more besides as political will to address the problem slumps in the Union. There is no useful correlation at all with the American rebellion against the true crown.

*Irony senses tingling.*

The Vietnam model makes more sense for the American Revolutionary War than for the American Civil War.
 
Off topic I suspect that a good model of it might be the Nine rebellion?

The Nine Years War would make a decent comparison to the American Civil War except the Irish had better grievances, were better prepared, and lasted longer. The Union withdrawing from Tennessee and Arkansas after Confederate independence is less likely than the English withdrawing from Ulster if the Irish had won their independence. The Confederacy gaining Missouri or Kentucky in the ACW is about as likely as the Irish gaining Scotland in the Nine Years War.
 
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