CSA wins the Civil War, does this sound like a good scenario ?

The Confederate government was controlled by the wealthy landowning class. These are the very people to whom a reopened slave trade, legal or otherwise, would pose an economic threat. The Confederate authorities would doubtless clamp down hard on any smuggling.

Besides, why would a smuggler do something as stupid as to try smuggling slaves? They would make no profit from it. There were more than enough slaves in the Confederacy to satisfy the demand (if anything, there were too many). It would be far easier, far cheaper, and far less problematic from a legal point of view to buy a slave within the Confederacy than to buy one from smugglers. And the heavy capital investment that ships, equipment, payments to African slave-traders, and everything else which would be involved would ensure that slaves smuggled in from Africa would have to be sold at a very high price in order for a profit to be made. They would never be able to compete with domestic slave traders.

Except that's not what happened in OTL.

"A dramatic increase of illicit traffic and actual importations of slaves took place in the decade 1850-1860. The fitting out of slavers became a prosperous business in the United States, one centered in New York City. Vessels leaving New York were in close alliance with legitimate trade. Downtown merchants of wealth and respectability engaged in buying and selling African slaves throughout the 1850s with little interference from the government."

"African American Historian WEB Dubois...estimated the number of those illegal imports to be 250,000. Recent scholarship has suggested that Dubois' numbers were too high, and that the correct figure...was more like 1000 illegal imports per year until 1863."
 
With a bit more tweaking e.g. the Great War does anyone like this, it is for a story and this would only be the background of it, so i would not be going into depth with it.
 
I don't take credit for this i slightly changed it in places as i have already said...

You are new here so maybe a few hints will help you

1) The CSA is going to come out of any ACW badly beaten up for decades. It will emerge deep in debt, with a significant amount of its labor force fleeing the country, have high inflation and is diplomatically isolated. This is what is bound to happen when you fight another country with 2-3X your population and 10X+ your industrial capacity. You aren't coming out sound and whole. The slavery problem was already a millstone around the CSAs neck diplomatically in the 1860s and would only get worse.

2) When you post here you to take the credit or the blame no matter if it is your original idea or not.

3) Remember the butterfly effect. If the CSA wins the ACW there will be huge flocks of butterflies that will prevent WWI as we know it. It would more than change enough to prevent the archduke from standing in the same place at the same time as OTL.
 
I don't take credit for this i slightly changed it in places as i have already said...

Even though you tweaked it here and there, it is still someone else's work. While you "don't take credit" for the story, you don't give the author credit for his/her story. Also, do you have their permission to "change it (their story) in places" and to post it on another forum (this one)? I take issue with you plagiarizing someone else's work. All questions, comments & observations about this scenario are secondary.
 
Were I you I'd be careful in using as a basis for a story someone else's setting, from a published work, if you had any hope of publishing it yourself.
 

Flubber

Banned
I don't take credit for this i slightly changed it in places as i have already said...


So, not only did you steal this so-called "time line" from someone else, you apparently thought a couple of tweaks to a "time line" posted on a site known more for pornographic cartoons than historical speculation would somehow allow that "time line" to meet the standards found here.

Talk about compounding an error. :rolleyes:
 
So, not only did you steal this so-called "time line" from someone else, you apparently thought a couple of tweaks to a "time line" posted on a site known more for pornographic cartoons than historical speculation would somehow allow that "time line" to meet the standards found here.

Talk about compounding an error. :rolleyes:

You do realize that QuantumBranching is B_Munro, right?
and that he has posted this map and scenario here?
 

Flubber

Banned
You do realize that QuantumBranching is B_Munro, right? and that he has posted this map and scenario here?


And how was it received then? Pretty much like this retreaded version is being received now, right?

This "time line" meets Deviant Art's standards, whatever they may be, and fails to meet AH.com's standards.
 
And how was it received then? Pretty much like this retreaded version is being received now, right?

This "time line" meets Deviant Art's standards, whatever they may be, and fails to meet AH.com's standards.

No.
People loved it.

Because it was put in the ASB settings thread, given that it involved Superheroes.

All that happened here was removing the heroes from the mix.
 
Superhero stories in ASB can get away with being ASB. Removing the superheroes from this leaves it still belonging in ASB at best.

How it was received in the original form has no bearing on that.
 
And how was it received then? Pretty much like this retreaded version is being received now, right?

This "time line" meets Deviant Art's standards, whatever they may be, and fails to meet AH.com's standards.

The 'timeline' for the map was based upon someone's work, QB just made a map for it. Still I would not take it as a serious view on alt hist.
 

Flubber

Banned
Because it was put in the ASB settings thread, given that it involved Superheroes. All that happened here was removing the heroes from the mix.


Precisely. This stolen time line is ASB. It doesn't belong here. (And by "here" I meant the "straight boards" and not the deliberately calculated douchebaggery that is ASB.)

The OP's errors were, first, stealing the work of someone else and, second, not recognizing that work as ASB despite their pitiful attempts at tweaking.
 
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