CSA:Election 1960!

Who do you support as president of the Confederate States of America?

  • Conservative Party-Barry Goldwater

    Votes: 13 32.5%
  • Southern Democrat-George Wallace

    Votes: 10 25.0%
  • Populist Party-Richard Russel Jr.

    Votes: 12 30.0%
  • Unity Party-John Tower

    Votes: 5 12.5%

  • Total voters
    40
  • Poll closed .
"Hello and welcome to the election station for CSA election 1960.Im Tim Rogers for KARK-4 broadcasting out of Little Rock, Arkansas live this November 5th for this great election.We will be covering all spectrums of election day, from the first ballots being cast in Virginia to when your new President is elected.
Many of you have already decided on the candidate you will pick when you walk up to the voting booth to cast your ballot, but just in case heres a last minute cheat sheet on the major parties and there respective candidates.

Conservative-Barry Goldwater (Sn.Arizona)


The Conservatives are the party of the last president, T.Coleman Andrews.The Conservatives are strong on states rights and believe in shrinking the government to a minimum.They support the President Andrews tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans, hard line segregation to the point of expelling blacks from certain areas and either taking away there vote or making it worth a fraction of the white mans vote, the death penalty, taking the KKK off the list of National terrorists, and are strong anti communists.Andrews broke the CSA's 200 year old trading pact with France when a Socialist Prime Minister was elected in the country and he turned country isolationist in recent years.They also believe in a much buffed up defense budget as the threat from Communist Cuba rises.They have lost touch with the youngest of the CSA and have become a party mainly for the wealthy and older deep southerners.

Southern Democrat-George Wallace (Gov.Alabama)

The Southern Democrats are a quickly rising party.After splitting from the Democrats in the 1958 midterms following the sharp turn right by the Andrews Administration.They are more moderate then the Conservatives, but still in the right wing spectrum.They believe in moderate segregation, but without adding anything onto it or taking it away.There much less isolationist and wish to ease tensions and renew alliances with Europe, and have actual peace talks with the U.S. They believe in a moderate sized government, and to repeal the Coleman tax cuts from 10 years to 5. They want better education standards, and to fire bad teachers and raise pay for goods ones. They also believe in an increased defense budget as there threat from Cuba rises.
They have become increasingly popular in the part of the Dems that has grown weary of the extremist Conservatives, and seem to be sneaking up on them fast and the top Democratic Party.

Populist Party-Richard Russell Jr. (Gov. Georgia)

The Populists are a party that risen from the ashes of the American farmers party following the great depression. They believe in a larger government that supports the poorest of American Citizens. They believe in extending the President Coleman tax cuts, but giving them to the poorest 10% of the CSA and raising taxes for the richest 10% of the CSA.They believe in increased Agricultural projects, and unions for all workers.They are against "The Second Slavery" or share cropping, for both blacks and whites and believe in Farmers Cooperatives to aid the farmers.They are strongly against the "corrupt banks" of the Confederacy.
They are popular amongst both whites and black farmers across the South and seem to be able to make a big splash in the next election.With the growing unemployment in the CSA it seems as if they could gain traction with the angriest of those unemployed.

Unity Party-John Tower (Sen. Texas)-

The party supports a Balanced Budget Amendment, a "Tithe Pool" to guarantee entitlements on a year-by-year basis, term limits of two terms for US Senators and four terms for US Representatives, outlawing the drawing of legislative districts along partisan lines (i.e., gerrymandering), and appointing panels of retired judges to oversee the drawing of legislative districts. The party's motto is "Not right, not left, but forward."They are the most center party in the CSA and are very popular among the non-Unionist sect of the left.


Current State of the House of Reps. And Senate

Senators:34

Southern Democrats-12
Conservatives-10
Populist Party-8
Unity Party-4

Representatives-183

Southern Democrats-62
Populist Party-53
Conservatives-49
Unity Party-25


So Who Wins? You, the Populace the Confederate States of America Decide!And we want you to tell us who your gonna vote for going into today, so you and the rest of the Confederacy can see if there favorite candidate is gonna take the Presidential seat today!"
 
I'm for the Southern Democrats. The Conservatives always struck me as too extreme for the job, plus Goldwater couldn't lead a camel to water in a monsoon, let alone take charge of the economy. It doesn't help that their stance on the Negro is too harsh in my opinion. Sure, they're not up to par usually, but advocating the removal of them when they've done no wrong is stupid.

As for the Populists... they're just commies in farmer's overalls. They'd rip apart this country like Mao did to China... damn war's still going on too. They should stick to doing what they know best... cotton picking and peach plucking.

Don't even get me started on the Unionists. They want to destroy our state's rights to self-govern with their laws. Centralist my ass. They're just like Endecja's group when he trounced the Germans in the thirties.

Whole country's is going to hell.

OOC: would the KKK really exist if the CSA won the war.

OOC: It's not that far out of the question for them to remain. Extremists still would exist in the time frame, so there's not too bad of a chance that the KKK would be around.
 
The Conservatives-Are thoroughly corrupt. Anybody remember the Israel-Contra scandal in 1954? They should stick to the only thing they CAN do right; being the bunch of dishonest, cocksucking, and pro-corporate idiots they are...........naw, scratch that, they can't do anything right.

Southern Democrats-Not nearly as corrupt, but still useless.

Populists-I'd like massive reform as much as the next guy, but they're gonna do things a little too quickly.

Unionists-States' Rights is bullshit............why do you think this country has so many problems with corruption, government, corporate or otherwise?

We either get our act together, or rejoin the U.S. and that's a FACT!




{@Deano1001: Neat little idea you had there :D}
 
The Conservatives-Are thoroughly corrupt. Anybody remember the Israel-Contra scandal in 1954? They should stick to the only thing they CAN do right; being the bunch of dishonest, cocksucking, and pro-corporate idiots they are...........naw, scratch that, they can't do anything right.

Let's not forget to mention that their twenty years of dominating politics is what caused this depression in the first place.

Southern Democrats-Not nearly as corrupt, but still useless.

I can't see why they'd be useless. Considering Wallace at least bothers to listen to the people, and while Alabama's still pretty bad off, it's at least starting to recover from Patterson's failures.
Populists-I'd like massive reform as much as the next guy, but they're gonna do things a little too quickly.

Speak for yourself. What they're advocating would break this country's back. They wouldn't know how to run a burger stand, let alone an entire country. A slow, steady transition is better than what the liberals and socialists are advocating, let alone these pinkos.

Unionists-States' Rights is bullshit............why do you think this country has so many problems with corruption, government, corporate or otherwise?

It might be because Conservatives put up that damn tax. Or it could be because they shut down free trade. Even their backers are starting to edge away from them.

We either get our act together, or rejoin the U.S. and that's a FACT!

So any plans?
 
There wouldn't have been a Confederate election in 1960 (assuming the constitution adopted in 1861 had remained in effect without amendments to the election schedule): Congressional elections were held every two years in odd-numbered years and presidentials were to be held every six years starting in 1861 (with the incumbent not being able to be reelected, if I recall correctly). The Confederate government during 1861, if you're wondering, was provisional - the constitutional convention, if you can call it that, just decided to remain in place and start functioning as a Congress (and they elected Jefferson Davis) until a regular election could be held, which they did that November. Odd, by the way, that they stuck with a Tuesday in early November as Election Day.
 
There wouldn't have been a Confederate election in 1960 (assuming the constitution adopted in 1861 had remained in effect without amendments to the election schedule): Congressional elections were held every two years in odd-numbered years and presidentials were to be held every six years starting in 1861 (with the incumbent not being able to be reelected, if I recall correctly). The Confederate government during 1861, if you're wondering, was provisional - the constitutional convention, if you can call it that, just decided to remain in place and start functioning as a Congress (and they elected Jefferson Davis) until a regular election could be held, which they did that November. Odd, by the way, that they stuck with a Tuesday in early November as Election Day.

ooc:Okay, I cant change it to 1861, and I couldnt think of another date then Tuesday and wiki didnt have any info on what it would be
 
OOC: Would Cuba have been a CSA state at this point already (Southern politicians were interested in that island even before the Civil War)?
 
ooc:Okay, I cant change it to 1861, and I couldnt think of another date then Tuesday and wiki didnt have any info on what it would be

I mean in real life the Confederacy chose that early-November Tuesday as Election Day. It's as good a date as any, of course, but it's always struck me as a little ironic that the Confederacy didn't change details like that of the country they were breaking away from. (And I'm newish here so I don't always get the nuances of what's speculation and what's in-character....)

That said....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_Congress
 
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Conservative[/COLOR]-Barry Goldwater (Sn.Arizona)


, hard line segregation to the point of expelling blacks from certain areas and either taking away there vote or making it worth a fraction of the white mans vote, , taking the KKK off the list of National terrorists, and are strong anti communists.Andrews broke the CSA's 200 year old

I voted populist but this doesn't sound like Barry Goldwater to me his opposition to civil rights legislation was because he saw it a state rather than a federal issue. Goldwater was a liberatarian on a lot of issues and would have defended the right of Moslems to build a mosque as being in line with the views of the founding fathers. I can't say I agree with Goldwater on a lot of issues but give hime credit for his good points
 
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