Crushing of Turkish forces in the independence war

Not short of wholesale genocide on Generalplan Ost levels of Turks, no.

What about if the Greeks just take Eastern Thrace, a few islands in the Aegan and then a wholesale population exchange took? I know this ain't the treaty of sevres being enforced, but could this happen?
 
It might happen but how long before Turkey comes back for a rematch and returns the favor of stolen land and ethnic cleansing?
 
It might happen but how long before Turkey comes back for a rematch and returns the favor of stolen land and ethnic cleansing?

True, wouldn't the matter be settled like it is today though? Since there are no Turks in Greece and Eastern Thrace at this point and no Greeks in Anatolia, they would have no excuse to go to war again, right?
 
What about if the Greeks just take Eastern Thrace, a few islands in the Aegan and then a wholesale population exchange took? I know this ain't the treaty of sevres being enforced, but could this happen?

They couldn't do this IOTL, and if there's a mutual population exchange Greeks will still engage in blatant lies about how this was a genocide.
 
They couldn't do this IOTL, and if there's a mutual population exchange Greeks will still engage in blatant lies about how this was a genocide.

The reason they couldn't do this IOTL is because they tried to take parts of Anatolia, overextended themselves and their generals tried to grab too much. I could see the above happening (above happening means what i said above) if they only took the European side of the Ottoman Empire and a few islands in the Aegan. If the Turkish forces tried to cross, the Greek navy could have prevented them from crossing.
 
The reason they couldn't do this IOTL is because they tried to take parts of Anatolia, overextended themselves and their generals tried to grab too much. I could see the above happening (above happening means what i said above) if they only took the European side of the Ottoman Empire and a few islands in the Aegan. If the Turkish forces tried to cross, the Greek navy could have prevented them from crossing.

Except that in no ATL where the Ottoman Empire is going to be dismembered on an OTL basis will Greece decide for a more "rational' variant of conquest and ethnically cleansing and massacring the Turks.
 
Not to mention that this requires Greece to forfeit all pretense of a claim on Istanbul or the coastal regions of Turkey AND accept the Greek population of those areas as refugees.
 
Not to mention that this requires Greece to forfeit all pretense of a claim on Istanbul or the coastal regions of Turkey AND accept the Greek population of those areas as refugees.

And of course it requires Bulgaria to accept Greece staking a claim to Thrace, which may not be very likely at all, even if Bulgaria's initial means to do anything about it would be limited.
 

Spengler

Banned
The reason they couldn't do this IOTL is because they tried to take parts of Anatolia, overextended themselves and their generals tried to grab too much. I could see the above happening (above happening means what i said above) if they only took the European side of the Ottoman Empire and a few islands in the Aegan. If the Turkish forces tried to cross, the Greek navy could have prevented them from crossing.
Yeah the problem with that is that Megali idea had been at the core of Greek thought for almost one hundred years, and it had at the time appeared to be working. There not going to act rationally if their plans kept working up to before that point.
 
Just because most of their plans up to that point (some failures along the way) worked wonders, doesn't mean that a sane government and some sane generals (can't remember who, read about it somewhere) can't outright refuse to invade Anatolia and just content themselves to Eastern Thrace, few islands in the Aegan etc. Maybe some sane generals convince the government of the day that an invasion and annexation of some of Anatolia isn't worth it and they realise their could be big problems in even trying it and they content themselves with Eastern Thrace, as their were some generals against it because of this.
 
Top