Crisis in the Kremlin - Our 1982 USSR

If I were ever to make 2nd timeline, which one would you be most interested in?

  • 1. German Empire 1888

    Votes: 62 29.2%
  • 2. Russian Federation 1993

    Votes: 74 34.9%
  • 3. Red China 1949

    Votes: 37 17.5%
  • 4. Yugoslavia 1920

    Votes: 27 12.7%
  • 5. India 1947

    Votes: 28 13.2%
  • 6. alt-fascist Italy 1922

    Votes: 29 13.7%
  • 7. South Africa 1994

    Votes: 18 8.5%
  • 8. Germany 1990

    Votes: 20 9.4%
  • 9. Japan 2000

    Votes: 18 8.5%
  • 10. United Kingdom 1997

    Votes: 20 9.4%

  • Total voters
    212
  • Poll closed .
1. After the death of Indira Gandhi, the Soviet leadership is afraid that the next Indian prime minister may not be so friendly to the USSR, as Gandhi was. Should the USSR push for a pro-Soviet candidate?
A) Yes, supporting a pro-Soviet candidate is our top priority;
B) No, respect Indian choice, whoever it may be.

2. Please write down, how should the Soviet government react to ongoing strike in Poland after death of Jerzy Popiełuszko?
 
1. After the death of Indira Gandhi, the Soviet leadership is afraid that the next Indian prime minister may not be so friendly to the USSR, as Gandhi was. Should the USSR push for a pro-Soviet candidate?
A) Yes, supporting a pro-Soviet candidate is our top priority;

2. Please write down, how should the Soviet government react to ongoing strike in Poland after death of Jerzy Popiełuszko?

I don't know who thought it was a good idea to obviously kill a figurehead for the anti-communist movement, but whoever did so ought to have their brains picked! We can't show weakness by submitting to those jackals' calls, but we also cannot repeat the mistakes of '81. Have the men who killed the priest investigated, tried, and found guilty, while also trying to make up with the Catholic Church. Perhaps we can investigate and find some dirt on the priests to get them to shut up while also allowing some leeway to keep them satisfied but useless.
 
1. After the death of Indira Gandhi, the Soviet leadership is afraid that the next Indian prime minister may not be so friendly to the USSR, as Gandhi was. Should the USSR push for a pro-Soviet candidate?
A) Yes, supporting a pro-Soviet candidate is our top priority;

2. Please write down, how should the Soviet government react to ongoing strike in Poland after death of Jerzy Popiełuszko?
Strongly "advise" the Polish government to punish the killers in a public trial, but also to make sure that it seems as if they worked alone, against their superiors' wishes. "Propose" also some socialist help in ensuring proper training quality and discipline in the Polish security service. Ensure that this proposal reaches the ears of all other countries as a stick against any too loud actions of any police forces. Make also sure to state officially that the USSR is deeply troubled by the murder in Poland and that the Soviet Union is always willing to help its allies in investigating any and all acts of revenge. At the same time leak to western media some of the more dirty secrets of the church to create extra chaos and distract from events in th East, make it seems as if said secrets were a reason for this personal act of revenge.
 
1. After the death of Indira Gandhi, the Soviet leadership is afraid that the next Indian prime minister may not be so friendly to the USSR, as Gandhi was. Should the USSR push for a pro-Soviet candidate?
A) Yes, supporting a pro-Soviet candidate is our top priority;
B) No, respect Indian choice, whoever it may be.
A) Yes, supporting a pro-Soviet candidate is our top priority.

2. Please write down, how should the Soviet government react to ongoing strike in Poland after death of Jerzy Popiełuszko?
I second the plan by @5je1ryj though would also add that the Polish government halt its efforts to discourage joining the priesthood. The "forbidden fruit" effect will just make it more appealing and the church can point to it as proof their being persecuted.
 
1. After the death of Indira Gandhi, the Soviet leadership is afraid that the next Indian prime minister may not be so friendly to the USSR, as Gandhi was. Should the USSR push for a pro-Soviet candidate?
A) Yes, supporting a pro-Soviet candidate is our top priority;


2. Please write down, how should the Soviet government react to ongoing strike in Poland after death of Jerzy Popiełuszko?
Strongly "advise" the Polish government to punish the killers in a public trial, but also to make sure that it seems as if they worked alone, against their superiors' wishes. "Propose" also some socialist help in ensuring proper training quality and discipline in the Polish security service. Ensure that this proposal reaches the ears of all other countries as a stick against any too loud actions of any police forces. Make also sure to state officially that the USSR is deeply troubled by the murder in Poland and that the Soviet Union is always willing to help its allies in investigating any and all acts of revenge. At the same time leak to western media some of the more dirty secrets of the church to create extra chaos and distract from events in th East, make it seems as if said secrets were a reason for this personal act of revenge.
 
1. After the death of Indira Gandhi, the Soviet leadership is afraid that the next Indian prime minister may not be so friendly to the USSR, as Gandhi was. Should the USSR push for a pro-Soviet candidate?
A) Yes, supporting a pro-Soviet candidate is our top priority;
B) No, respect Indian choice, whoever it may be.
B) As much as it would benefit us to have a pro-Soviet Prime Minister, we must respect the wishes of the people of India.

2. Please write down, how should the Soviet government react to ongoing strike in Poland after death of Jerzy Popiełuszko?
In public, demand the killers be brought to justice in a public trial to be broadcast throughout the world.
In private, tell the government in Warsaw that we'll be "reforming" their internal security services, and if they don't like it they'll find themselves "retired due to ill health."
 
In public, demand the killers be brought to justice in a public trial to be broadcast throughout the world.
In private, tell the government in Warsaw that we'll be "reforming" their internal security services, and if they don't like it they'll find themselves "retired due to ill health."

We have lot of power in Warsaw pact countries, but not that much. That is if you don't plan to send in the tanks to do the retirement thing. But that comes with its own set of problems .

1. After the death of Indira Gandhi, the Soviet leadership is afraid that the next Indian prime minister may not be so friendly to the USSR, as Gandhi was. Should the USSR push for a pro-Soviet candidate?
A) Yes, supporting a pro-Soviet candidate is our top priority;

2. Please write down, how should the Soviet government react to ongoing strike in Poland after death of Jerzy Popiełuszko?

1. Encourage public trials of the murder, but make sure that the outcome is that murderers had worked alone and on their own accord. Though do welcome some resignations and early retirement for higher ups that ordered this to make outcome of the trial more believable and give Communist government appearance of accountability and responsibility. Consequences of this need to reach people in high places after all and resignations and retirement is better than prison.
2. Offer training of special forces against the dissidents and in this case bring out dirty laundry about the Church.
3. Do encourage some carrots to the Church and Polish in general by encouraging reforms similar to the early Gomułka reforms (Polish Thaw) and allow some liberalization. It was popular among Polish population before and it can be so again.
 
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1. After the death of Indira Gandhi, the Soviet leadership is afraid that the next Indian prime minister may not be so friendly to the USSR, as Gandhi was. Should the USSR push for a pro-Soviet candidate?
A) Yes, supporting a pro-Soviet candidate is our top priority.
-> Because we need an ally or a partner that could counter China in the Asian theatre, whether if it's in the present or the future.

2. Please write down, how should the Soviet government react to ongoing strike in Poland after death of Jerzy Popiełuszko?
-> As said by the previous commenters above me, orchestrate a public trial against the priest's killers. The Communist government must be held accountable and responsible for this political murder. And also, investigate the Church as well to see if there are anomalies. We must not be one sided in this matter. And also, assist and restructure Poland's internal service in order to be the better version of itself so that this event may not happen again in the future.
 
1. After the death of Indira Gandhi, the Soviet leadership is afraid that the next Indian prime minister may not be so friendly to the USSR, as Gandhi was. Should the USSR push for a pro-Soviet candidate?
A) Having India as an ally would help us in the long term as China will always be our enemy no matter who's in charge, also as a way to distract Pakistan from supporting Mujahedeen & other Islamic extremist.

2. Please write down, how should the Soviet government react to ongoing strike in Poland after death of Jerzy Popiełuszko?
Same answer as @Kriss and @Rysesaka but also increase KGB presence to keep an eye on the Church so there isn't another "Popiełuszko" from causing another incident.
 
1) B. It doesn't seem like India will drift away from the Soviet partnership, it's not in their interest to do it, so respect the democratic procedure
2. Support of the plans of @Kriss and @Rysesaka
 
1 - A; India is a good and faithful ally, let's ensure that relations remain the same by supporting a favorable candidate even if we do not share the same policy with him.

2 - What has happened cannot be repeated, we have given the West a martyr, and it will not stop using it as ammunition against us. So I support the decision of @Kriss and @Rysesaka , we must make it clear that these behaviors will not be tolerated or allowed to be repeated.
 

Pangur

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1: Leave things play out as they may
2:On the face of it, stay out of it however keep a very close eye on them so we can influence some of them at the right time. See if the priests have any sexual actions, keep quiet for now
 
1. A. Support the pro Soviet candidate, but we should do it subtly. We can not be too pushy. The people of India should feel it is their decision. We just need to help them to make the right choice.
2. Tell the Polish communists to publicly crucify the killers in court and make it clear that it was done without any knowledge (not to mention approval) of state authorities. Help them to reform their Służba Bezpieczeństwa (Security Service). In short: what @Kriss and @Rysesaka said.
 
1. After the death of Indira Gandhi, the Soviet leadership is afraid that the next Indian prime minister may not be so friendly to the USSR, as Gandhi was. Should the USSR push for a pro-Soviet candidate
B) Let's respect the choice of the Indian populace without interference, though show our willingness to engage and pursue good relations with the new leader whomever they may be.

2. Please write down, how should the Soviet government react to ongoing strike in Poland after death of Jerzy Popiełuszko?
I'll add my support to the ideas of @Kriss and @Rysesaka.
 
Thinking about it, does the computer industry have a computer...? If they do have it already then how's it coming along?
Yes, the Apple Manitosh has already been released in the USA and the industry is doing quite well.
I'm more curious if we will be in the game to revive the Soviet projects of the 60's to create their own internet that were blocked by Brezhnev? @panpiotr
 
Yes, the Apple Manitosh has already been released in the USA and the industry is doing quite well.
I'm more curious if we will be in the game to revive the Soviet projects of the 60's to create their own internet that were blocked by Brezhnev? @panpiotr
Ah but yeah I do also hope that revive the project as it'll help us on the long term.
 
Thinking about it, does the computer industry have a computer...? If they do have it already then how's it coming along?
Yes, the Apple Manitosh has already been released in the USA and the industry is doing quite well.
I'm more curious if we will be in the game to revive the Soviet projects of the 60's to create their own internet that were blocked by Brezhnev? @panpiotr
Ah but yeah I do also hope that revive the project as it'll help us on the long term.
Cloning of existing western systems was abandoned in favour original computer designs, but due to Western significant advantage in semiconductor industry it will take much time to bridge the gap between the USSR and the West, though we started going into the right direction.
 
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