Crimean Goth Emirate ?

What if the Crimean Goth maintain rule on the Crimean penisula and eventually become Islamic due to Turkic influence ?
 
Did they ever even have it? I thought the Crimean Goths were the peasant population of a Greek-dominated state that was in turn succeeded by the Crimean Tatars. I'd assume any Islamification will accompany Turkification meaning they'll end up as Crimean Tatars.
 
How dominant group Goths were anymore during Tatar invasion?

Not at all. In all respects, they were slowly absorbed into the dominant ethnic group in control of the region at the time (Greek, Tatar, likely Russian too). That didn't stop Hitler and co. from entertaining delusions of restoring the 'Gothic' identity of Crimea (largely by wiping out the current inhabitants and replacing them with Germans).
 
Not at all. In all respects, they were slowly absorbed into the dominant ethnic group in control of the region at the time (Greek, Tatar, likely Russian too). That didn't stop Hitler and co. from entertaining delusions of restoring the 'Gothic' identity of Crimea (largely by wiping out the current inhabitants and replacing them with Germans).
Russians came to Crimea too late to absorb the Goths. By 1771, all descendants of the Crimean Goths spoke Crimean Tatar (or Turkish) and self-identified as Greeks (if they were still Orthodox) or Tatars (if they were Muslims). Neither Crimean Greeks (resettled to Southern Ukraine in 1777-1783) nor Crimean Tatars were Russified to any extent before the 20th century. By now, both groups speak mostly Russian, but they still self-identify as Greeks and Tatars.
 
Russians came to Crimea too late to absorb the Goths. By 1771, all descendants of the Crimean Goths spoke Crimean Tatar (or Turkish) and self-identified as Greeks (if they were still Orthodox) or Tatars (if they were Muslims). Neither Crimean Greeks (resettled to Southern Ukraine in 1777-1783) nor Crimean Tatars were Russified to any extent before the 20th century. By now, both groups speak mostly Russian, but they still self-identify as Greeks and Tatars.

I see. Well, it's probably possible, if very unlikely, to have a Gothic Emirate, but the problem lies in trying to upending Tatar rule, and the fact that their numbers would probably be too small and too naturally assimilated to consider revolting. Not sure if having a Goth becoming emir of a Tatar-dominated Emirate applies in this WI.
 
Not at all. In all respects, they were slowly absorbed into the dominant ethnic group in control of the region at the time (Greek, Tatar, likely Russian too). That didn't stop Hitler and co. from entertaining delusions of restoring the 'Gothic' identity of Crimea (largely by wiping out the current inhabitants and replacing them with Germans).

The German Empire too, in their proposal of annexing Crimea after WWI, though with less genocide involved.

I see. Well, it's probably possible, if very unlikely, to have a Gothic Emirate, but the problem lies in trying to upending Tatar rule, and the fact that their numbers would probably be too small and too naturally assimilated to consider revolting. Not sure if having a Goth becoming emir of a Tatar-dominated Emirate applies in this WI.

That would be like all the Byzantine Emperors who were Armenians--still a Greek state at the end of the day.
 
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