"Created Equal - Jefferson in '96" 1840 Fed./Rep Convention

Who should be the Federalist/Republican 1840 Presidential nominee?

  • Former President henry Clay

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Daniel Webster

    Votes: 3 100.0%
  • Compromise candidate - name them, please

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Invented name - they can have died in OTL's War of 1812

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    3
  • Poll closed .
Howdy, y'all. Just like with other polls for my TL Created Equal, I will highly consider the votes of the board for who should win the Presidency.

My goals: Go from gradual abolition by a few states with different plans to a firm plan which all states can agree on to end slavery, or at least all states not named South Carolina; defeat incumbent Vice President Martin Van Buren; work a compromise that will not allow Bank of the United States - whose charter ends in 1843 – to remain oligarchical, but to slowly dissolve it (even if this means chartering it for only 10 more years); and, trying to encourage Western settlement, especially by Freedmen, with education of them encouraged to be done by states themselves.

Facts on the ground: As will be seen in the next couple of installments, as well as the one posted a shrot time before this, slavery is gradually ending in the Upper South. A firestorm will reupt because states are going it at different times. Virginia will end all of it by 1840, but not everyone int he Deep South is happy, partly becasue of the flood of slaves being sold further south. Most in even the Deep South accept the gradla end of slavery, though, and so would vote for its end; after all, it is not alloed west of the Mississippi.

President Crockett has slowly allowed state banks to emerge instead of the National Bank, but his plan has forced banks to have a certain amount in reserve, a more intelligent move than Jackson's disater of 1821-25.

Support of unviersal white male suffrage is pretty much accepted unviersally now, but Louisiana passed a bill in 1834 for unviersal suffrage for all over 21, regardless of race or gender. This landmark triumph, thanks to Governor Burr's love of his daughter Theodosia translating into a desire for womens' suffrage and to his courting of Louisiana's free black population - has many people talking throughout the U.S.. It's said that only a man witht he power of Governor Burr could have pulled it off.

Possible names.
Henry Clay: Pros: The Great Compromiser; won Presidency with Whig coalition of liberal Federalists and anti-Jacksonian Democrats in 1828, just as DeWitt Clinton had in 1824, lost to Crockett in 1832; Cons: Partly due to the chaos, he lost a somewht close re-election bid, and Crockett is seen as the better President, so Crockett's VP might be seen as better than him, too. Plus, he didn't think the races could live together in the South, so I don't know if he'd support having them out West eitehr, might be good for the Whigs but not sure I want him personally.

Daniel Webster: Pros: Very anti-slavery, will get it done; Cons: Elitist enough that he might be too strongly for the Bank of the Untied States even with financial power int he hands of the few - then again, OTL he compromised eventually on slavery when he was older, maybe he would here, too.

A compromise candidate: Name him, please. There is a Southern faction of the Federalist, who now mostly go by Republicans to the D-R Democrats, which won't want to gradually end slavery or at least want to extend it for a longer time. I do want it ended pretty qucikly. William henry harrison lost the 1836 election to Crockett.

Interestingly, in this TL younger presidents are pretty common. Jefferson and Madison were each 4 years younger than in OTL when they won, John Quincy Adams was 45, DeWitt Clinton (2 years younger than Adams OTL in 1812) almost beat Adams (and did win in 1824), andCrockett was 46 when he won. So, it doesn't even have to be someone born in OTL's 1780s or early 1790s, let alone late 1770s. (See my intro for how I'm handling butterflies of people being born.)

Also, with no War of 1812 but a war in 1807-8, there are butterflies as far as people serving and it impacting when they start their careers. (As it does when it comes to people who in OTL died in that war, but I'd like to avoid such people if I can, unless there's a good reason to believe they'd fit the bill if they'd survive

Another option is to create a candidate, but again, if I jsut say "he's a soldier who died in OTL War of 1812 I woudl feel like I'm cheating a bit. Unless there's evidence witht he rest of the family they'd be the same.

This voting is open for 5 days, same as a real nominating convention. Well, unless you're a Democrat in 1924 :)
 
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