libbrit
Banned
..........starting some time pre 1900 (possibly a LONG time pre 1900)
My reasoning is this.
The North as a general concept has many of the aspects of a seperate identity-a sense of difference from the south, various social and economic issues unique to its part of the world, and various dedicated organisations and political set ups (the English regions of the North West, Yorkshire and the Humber and the North East come to mind)
In the past, the north has been considered sufficiently different from the south to have a form of proto devolution (the Council of the North, which governed everything between the Scottish border and the River Trent), so its not unprecedented. Couple that with the fact that the north was ones the heart of English catholicism during the reformation, and was the heart of English industrialisation during the industrial reviolution and arguably its a potent mix which could be exploited by some sort of northern seperatism.
So the issue is, first, define the north-does it include the midlands for example? To anyone who considers themselves a northerner, arguably anything south of where they live is `the south`, and to any southerner, id be surprised if they didnt consider Birmingham and the Midlands as the north? So where do we draw the line?
Then, once the line is drawn, how do we create a plausible chain of events, historically and politically, to create a plausible seperate northern identity and events therein?
Thoughts?
My reasoning is this.
The North as a general concept has many of the aspects of a seperate identity-a sense of difference from the south, various social and economic issues unique to its part of the world, and various dedicated organisations and political set ups (the English regions of the North West, Yorkshire and the Humber and the North East come to mind)
In the past, the north has been considered sufficiently different from the south to have a form of proto devolution (the Council of the North, which governed everything between the Scottish border and the River Trent), so its not unprecedented. Couple that with the fact that the north was ones the heart of English catholicism during the reformation, and was the heart of English industrialisation during the industrial reviolution and arguably its a potent mix which could be exploited by some sort of northern seperatism.
So the issue is, first, define the north-does it include the midlands for example? To anyone who considers themselves a northerner, arguably anything south of where they live is `the south`, and to any southerner, id be surprised if they didnt consider Birmingham and the Midlands as the north? So where do we draw the line?
Then, once the line is drawn, how do we create a plausible chain of events, historically and politically, to create a plausible seperate northern identity and events therein?
Thoughts?