Court mandated semen sampling

This might verge on ASB, since the Catholic Church and Fundamentalist Christians would "balk" (to put it mildly), but then, stupid laws and customs have persisted in history before.
The most plausible way to get this, I figure, would be a requirement that DNA samples come from the same tissue sample that exists in the evidence...so skin samples under fingernails would require a skin scraping from a suspect. This is scientific nonsense, a DNA sample can come from any tissue, but the law doesn't ALWAYS do things in a scientifically sensible manner.
OK, now we have rape suspects being ordered to provide semen samples, and presumably being kept in jail until they comply. How many religious people would be in jail indefinitely under such a scenario? Dozens? Hundreds? Thousands?
PS...this was inspired by a Law & Order SVU episode where the students in a Catholic school sport team were required to give semen samples to check sperm motility (and the priest implausibly went along, albeit under protest).
 

loughery111

Banned
But... why? The DNA there is the same as the DNA in their blood, skin, or swabbed in a noninvasive fashion from their mouth. Is this designed for the express purpose of getting people to flip out or something?
 
Is this designed for the express purpose of getting people to flip out or something?


Pretty much.

The OP admits it's ASB, got the "idea" from a television show more known for it's dedication to prurience than plausibility, and mentioned two religions by name.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, what is it?
 

Sachyriel

Banned
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, what is it?

It's obviously animatronic, since it works for Disney.

Anyways, this makes getting DNA slightly more fun.

What about if instead of that, Sperm Banks were mandated to hand over any sample of the suspects DNA if he refuses to provide any upon police request?
 
There's only scenario I can think of where a judge would ever order someone to give a semen sample. A rape suspect has an indentical twin and one of them is sterile or had a vasectomy. Even then it'd be in one of twins best interests to volunteer. Besides there are ways of obtaining a semen sample if the suspect refuses to masturbate. It can be surgically extracted or a rectal probe could be used to induce orgasm (as is often done with livestock).
 

Sachyriel

Banned
That assumes the sperm banks have the DNA of the suspect.

Yeah that was a given in that scenario. But I plan to someday.

Furthermore, I would imagine it would require a warrant.

PATRIOT ACT? I dunno, but a Warrant isn't needed for everything, maybe there could be some law that allows this to be done with no warrant if the suspects case is violent or something.

rectal probe could be used to induce orgasm (as is often done with livestock).

CRUEL AND UNUSUAL
 

NothingNow

Banned
But... why? The DNA there is the same as the DNA in their blood, skin, or swabbed in a noninvasive fashion from their mouth. Is this designed for the express purpose of getting people to flip out or something?
Nah, there are issues with naturally occurring Chimeras where twins sort of merged in the womb, thus the Reproductive tissues might not match the normally harvested tissues for DNA work. Just look at what happened with Lydia Fairchild.
 

Sachyriel

Banned
And, if you can get a warrant for that, you could get a warrant that allowed obtaining the DNA sample directly from the suspect.

Unles the suspect isn't actually around to get a sample from, say, running away for an unrelated issue? Warrant to get pre-made DNA sample from the SB while the suspect is away, allowing Trial in Abstentia.
 
There's only scenario I can think of where a judge would ever order someone to give a semen sample. A rape suspect has an indentical twin and one of them is sterile or had a vasectomy. Even then it'd be in one of twins best interests to volunteer. Besides there are ways of obtaining a semen sample if the suspect refuses to masturbate. It can be surgically extracted or a rectal probe could be used to induce orgasm (as is often done with livestock).

Any country where a court could require that would already be a dictatorship

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Grey Wolf
 
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