Countries of an Alternate World Zeta Two - Eurasia and North Africa

Councilistischeunion or Councilist Union.

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I claim after Errnge to assure that we don't have any stupid separate-Aragon crap.

DrTron
Ganesha?
Errnge
Ganesha?
Zuvarq
Ganesha?
 
I do herebly present, one of the many states from a Great War, a nation that which existence was impossible for a long time. Here then is the Republic of Bretagne!

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would it break your heart if i made it part of a fascist occitan state?
I don't know if any significant fascist state could survive to 2011 regardless.

But yes. DAMN ARAGON AL INFIERNO.

Occitania should only be north of the Pyrenees.
 
I don't know if any significant fascist state could survive to 2011 regardless.

But yes. DAMN ARAGON AL INFIERNO.

Occitania should only be north of the Pyrenees.
How about an Catalonia that resulted from the same Great War as Bretagne and Occitania?
Plus I claim after Ganesha or Zuvarq
 
I don't know if any significant fascist state could survive to 2011 regardless.

But yes. DAMN ARAGON AL INFIERNO.

Occitania should only be north of the Pyrenees.

well, we have a balkanized france, the north is socialist, so the south could go far right, and aragon could be ceased by them in if Spain's government turns socialist, claiming to be saving their occitan-speaking brethren.
 
Spain not having Catalonia or Aragon is extremely cliche. That is one thing we will not have.

The reason I picked 1700 was so that Spain and France could be in one piece. Well France is split apart, so let's at least keep Spain together.
 
I didn't realize we were moving along so quickly, which is unfortunate because Zuvarq's country covers most of where mine was going to be. Can I still go?
 
I didn't realize we were moving along so quickly, which is unfortunate because Zuvarq's country covers most of where mine was going to be. Can I still go?
Ganesha
Agatho
Errnge
Zuvarq

Don't add anything in Iberia unless it's a fully united Spain.
 
Spain not having Catalonia or Aragon is extremely cliche. That is one thing we will not have.

The reason I picked 1700 was so that Spain and France could be in one piece. Well France is split apart, so let's at least keep Spain together.

yeah, and everytime you do one of these, you make spain an uber-power. i'm not suggesting a free catalonia or aragon, but that occitania has swollowed them, which is in no way cliche, far less than a united spain for certain, and i can easily think of a history that would cause this.

what's the point in making alternate maps if they are all the same and "together" anyway?
 
Okay, here's mine.


Brihottara Bangla Garatontro, also known as the Greater Bengali Republic. A thalassocracy founded in the early 1700s, Bengal became the only Indian state to modernize and completely resist colonization. Conquered Sri Lanka after the Third Anglo-Bangla War.

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yeah, and everytime you do one of these, you make spain an uber-power. i'm not suggesting a free catalonia or aragon, but that occitania has swollowed them, which is in no way cliche, far less than a united spain for certain, and i can easily think of a history that would cause this.

what's the point in making alternate maps if they are all the same and "together" anyway?
Everyone on this forum, except for the trace amount of Spanish members not from Barcelona, screws Spain over in whatever way they can, and loves the French. It's an extreme cliche. I can't think of an alternate history cliche more prevalent than a fallen or semi-fallen Spain.

The one nation I do always wank on these is the Ottoman Empire, because I like the idea of a united peaceful Middle East.



But actually go ahead and give Occitania Catalonia. But just Catalonia proper, nothing of the rest of the historical Kingdom of Aragon.
 
Wait, I just realized--and this is not just because I want a full Spain--if Occitania was created in the last World War, how did it get Catalonia? Maybe France occupied and annexed Catalonia in the beginning of the war, but after its splitting-up newly-created Occitania kept it? That seems to be the only possible way.
 
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