Could the french revolution spread to other countries?

I am curious could the 1789 french revolution ideals spread to others countries and start revolutions all over Europe? If yes whit what pod and how do you think Europe would look like?
 
Well, OTL it did, even if not in a big way. As you're Belgian, I would quote the Liege Revolution, you certainly know. The Saxon peasan'ts revolt share some similarities with the first part of French Revolution as well.
 
I mean could the revolution generalise to others countries like Spain, Austria , Prussia and other nation?
 
Don't know of Spain/Russia, but UK was quite democratic from the mediveal ages. Austria and Russia ha made reforms in the 18th century (Friedrich II + sucessors/Maria Theresia/Joseph II) the "pressure" in those counties was not as high as in France. So I'd say NO for those.
 
If the executions of the royal couple, the subsequent death of the dauphin and the reign of terror can be avoided, then the british public would by and large stay sympethetic to the french revolutionaries. If the revolution stops after the constitutional monarchy is implemented, then at least the more enlightened continental monarchs might even decide that a constitutional monarchy is a good way to weaken or even disempower the aristo- and kleptocratic camarillas at their courts and side with the revolutionary bourgeoisie, thus you might see velvet revolutions happening all over Europe.
 
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I am curious could the 1789 french revolution ideals spread to others countries and start revolutions all over Europe? If yes whit what pod and how do you think Europe would look like?

You do know that Revolutionary France and in a certain way Napoleonic France did spread the revolution, though Napoleon was more pragmatic and more about accomplishments than ideals, when compared to the revolutionaries.

Revolutionary France conquered the Southern Netherlands (now Belgium) and they supported the Dutch Patriots, which lead to the Dutch Republic being overthrown and the establishment of the Batavian Republic.

Revolutionary France also established other client states in Italy and Germany too.
So the ideals did spread in Europe and probably even spread further than Revolutionary France, which it partially owes to Napoleon.
 
As it spread in Belgium, Saxony (IIRC), most northern italian states, some parts of Switzerland, Haïti and the Netherlands, i would say thah yes, the revolution could spread to other countries as it did in OTL. If you ask if more countries could experience revolutions i would say : probably yes, such as England, some other german states, Poland, the balkans, Greece being the most probable.
 
You do know that Revolutionary France and in a certain way Napoleonic France did spread the revolution, though Napoleon was more pragmatic and more about accomplishments than ideals, when compared to the revolutionaries.

Revolutionary France conquered the Southern Netherlands (now Belgium) and they supported the Dutch Patriots, which lead to the Dutch Republic being overthrown and the establishment of the Batavian Republic.

Revolutionary France also established other client states in Italy and Germany too.
So the ideals did spread in Europe and probably even spread further than Revolutionary France, which it partially owes to Napoleon.
Military conquest is not what I mean by spreading revolution. I mean revolution done by the peoples not brought by foreign conqueror.
 
Military conquest is not what I mean by spreading revolution. I mean revolution done by the peoples not brought by foreign conqueror.

The Batavian Republic was established by Dutch Revolutionaries (Patriots) supported by Revolutionary France, but apart from support it wasn't full conquest, like the annexation of the kingdom of Holland to the First French Empire.
 
Don't know of Spain/Russia, but UK was quite democratic from the mediveal ages...

Haha, cute.

Oh, you were serious?

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Britain was "democratic," or even "liberal," only when compared to the fiercely reactionary states that opposed her. If Medieval Britain was democratic than Saddam's Iraq was one of the most democratic states in the world. :rolleyes:

To the OP, yes, and it did happen IOTL; the Lowland, Swiss, north Italian, and west German states all experienced 'French-like' revolutions at about the same time as that happening in Paris - they were simply rolled up into the French Revolutionary movement once France's armies marched through the region. The most likely alternate revolts would be those places where they almost succeeded but were ultimately defeated IOTL - Poland & Ireland.
 

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You do know that Revolutionary France and in a certain way Napoleonic France did spread the revolution, though Napoleon was more pragmatic and more about accomplishments than ideals, when compared to the revolutionaries.

Revolutionary France conquered the Southern Netherlands (now Belgium) and they supported the Dutch Patriots, which lead to the Dutch Republic being overthrown and the establishment of the Batavian Republic.

Revolutionary France also established other client states in Italy and Germany too.
So the ideals did spread in Europe and probably even spread further than Revolutionary France, which it partially owes to Napoleon.
Exporting the revolution went on for like a couple of years but pretty soon the First Republic got a sense of their own power and outright started to annex territories instead of setting up "sister Republics".
 
Janprimus said:
You do know that Revolutionary France and in a certain way Napoleonic France did spread the revolution, though Napoleon was more pragmatic and more about accomplishments than ideals, when compared to the revolutionaries.

Revolutionary France conquered the Southern Netherlands (now Belgium) and they supported the Dutch Patriots, which lead to the Dutch Republic being overthrown and the establishment of the Batavian Republic.

Revolutionary France also established other client states in Italy and Germany too.
So the ideals did spread in Europe and probably even spread further than Revolutionary France, which it partially owes to Napoleon.
That's totally true. If you consider the number of states that had adopted Napoleon's Code Civil and that kept it after his defeat, you'll see that it does concern a lot of Italian and German States. Not to mention that the Revolution also affected Politics in some areas: Liberalism was born in Spain as a reaction to the Napoleonic invasion. It was born against the French Revolution but it still is an influence.

Richter von Manthofen said:
Don't know of Spain/Russia, but UK was quite democratic from the mediveal ages
Not really... The King and the Monarchy remained quite powerful throughout the Middle Age. Parliament only started to take real importance during the reign of Charles I where it became an opponent to the King's policies and effectively overthrew (and beheaded) the King. It gained even more power after James II was overthrown in favor of his daughter Mary II and stepson William III. After that, the role of the King was gradually reduced to nothing more than a figurehead and a symbol because of the poor ruling of the early Hannovers and the "madness" (read Porphyria) of George III.

But even with that, Britain wasn't a perfect democracy. The right to vote still required those who could use it to pay a certain census. I believe the Census was gradually enlarged only in the XVIIIth Century. In fact, I think the right to vote became Universal (for males) only during Victoria's reign.
 
Of Course UK was not democratic from a modern POV, but The towns and the aristocracy had more power than in other European countries.

The french revolution was not (initially) revolution of the masses. it was a revolution of the towns. Maybe it even was only a revolution of Paris... ;)
 
Richter von Manthofen said:
The french revolution was not (initially) revolution of the masses. it was a revolution of the towns. Maybe it even was only a revolution of Paris...
Only Paris? Probably not, though one can argue that Paris definitely took the leadership of the Revolution.
 
i often wondered if the french revolution was actually caused by the (failed) dutch revolution of the patriotten, many of its wealthy supporters fled to france afterwards and kept more or less active. Of course i doubt the french would ever admit their revolution being inspired by another one, but the ideals that the patriotten wanted were the same that the french revolution wanted to obtain. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriots_(faction)
 
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