I am curious could the 1789 french revolution ideals spread to others countries and start revolutions all over Europe? If yes whit what pod and how do you think Europe would look like?
Military conquest is not what I mean by spreading revolution. I mean revolution done by the peoples not brought by foreign conqueror.You do know that Revolutionary France and in a certain way Napoleonic France did spread the revolution, though Napoleon was more pragmatic and more about accomplishments than ideals, when compared to the revolutionaries.
Revolutionary France conquered the Southern Netherlands (now Belgium) and they supported the Dutch Patriots, which lead to the Dutch Republic being overthrown and the establishment of the Batavian Republic.
Revolutionary France also established other client states in Italy and Germany too.
So the ideals did spread in Europe and probably even spread further than Revolutionary France, which it partially owes to Napoleon.
Military conquest is not what I mean by spreading revolution. I mean revolution done by the peoples not brought by foreign conqueror.
Don't know of Spain/Russia, but UK was quite democratic from the mediveal ages...
Exporting the revolution went on for like a couple of years but pretty soon the First Republic got a sense of their own power and outright started to annex territories instead of setting up "sister Republics".You do know that Revolutionary France and in a certain way Napoleonic France did spread the revolution, though Napoleon was more pragmatic and more about accomplishments than ideals, when compared to the revolutionaries.
Revolutionary France conquered the Southern Netherlands (now Belgium) and they supported the Dutch Patriots, which lead to the Dutch Republic being overthrown and the establishment of the Batavian Republic.
Revolutionary France also established other client states in Italy and Germany too.
So the ideals did spread in Europe and probably even spread further than Revolutionary France, which it partially owes to Napoleon.
That's totally true. If you consider the number of states that had adopted Napoleon's Code Civil and that kept it after his defeat, you'll see that it does concern a lot of Italian and German States. Not to mention that the Revolution also affected Politics in some areas: Liberalism was born in Spain as a reaction to the Napoleonic invasion. It was born against the French Revolution but it still is an influence.Janprimus said:You do know that Revolutionary France and in a certain way Napoleonic France did spread the revolution, though Napoleon was more pragmatic and more about accomplishments than ideals, when compared to the revolutionaries.
Revolutionary France conquered the Southern Netherlands (now Belgium) and they supported the Dutch Patriots, which lead to the Dutch Republic being overthrown and the establishment of the Batavian Republic.
Revolutionary France also established other client states in Italy and Germany too.
So the ideals did spread in Europe and probably even spread further than Revolutionary France, which it partially owes to Napoleon.
Not really... The King and the Monarchy remained quite powerful throughout the Middle Age. Parliament only started to take real importance during the reign of Charles I where it became an opponent to the King's policies and effectively overthrew (and beheaded) the King. It gained even more power after James II was overthrown in favor of his daughter Mary II and stepson William III. After that, the role of the King was gradually reduced to nothing more than a figurehead and a symbol because of the poor ruling of the early Hannovers and the "madness" (read Porphyria) of George III.Richter von Manthofen said:Don't know of Spain/Russia, but UK was quite democratic from the mediveal ages
The french revolution was not (initially) revolution of the masses. it was a revolution of the towns. Maybe it even was only a revolution of Paris...![]()
Only Paris? Probably not, though one can argue that Paris definitely took the leadership of the Revolution.Richter von Manthofen said:The french revolution was not (initially) revolution of the masses. it was a revolution of the towns. Maybe it even was only a revolution of Paris...