Could the communists win against the Nazi part in 1930s Germany?

I'm just wondering if Germany could go communist in the 1930s and what would it take to get a Communist autocratic state. Would there be a WWII still? Would they ally with the USSR?
Could this still happen with Hitler still around, and a recognisable Nazi movement?

Probably implausible but was wondering whilst watching about Hitler's rise to power.
 

Wolfpaw

Banned
Short answer: No.

Long answer: They never broke 17% of the vote and every other party and faction hated them, so no.
 
The Socialists and Communists in Germany hated each other (dating back to the unrest after the end of WW1). Without them joining forces you're not going to get enough votes on the left of the political spectrum.
 
Short answer: No.

Long answer: They never broke 17% of the vote and every other party and faction hated them, so no.
There are other ways to power besides elections.

But yes, it's not a very likely eventuality. The Nazis were just much better suited to take advantage of the Great Depression than the Communists, given the political climate.
 
Basically this. To have a Germany go red, you need to butterfly the Bavarian Soviet, and hell probably WW1 altogether.

Well, someone did have a TL where these happened and it still successfully went Communist, however that took special PODs a bit earlier than the Great Depression.
 
Not in the Weimer Republic there wasn't, not even for Hitler.

Not true necessarily. If you're referring to the Beer Hall Putsch, that was just lack of good planning, what little was planned at all, and a complete underestimation of von Kahr's triumvirate. Now a coup on the scale of the Kapp Putsch could possibly succeed, but it would need the complete support of the Reichswehr.
 
And the Reichswehr weren't about to support the Communists who had been notorious pacifists during the war and whom they blamed for losing the war.
 
And the Reichswehr weren't about to support the Communists who had been notorious pacifists during the war and whom they blamed for losing the war.

Got it in one. I was just going against the theory that a military coup or other grab at power was impossible in the Weimar Republic.
 

Cook

Banned
Not true necessarily. If you're referring to the Beer Hall Putsch...
I was referring to Germany in the late 1920s, early ‘30s, it was get elected or nothing; any attempt at a revolution (either Communist or SA) would be crushed by the army. And the army was apolitical and loyal to the president, so no possibility of a coup either.

The Communists and Social Democrats could have formed a coalition to block the Nazis, but of course they hated each other as a legacy of 1918-19. The Socialists, radicals and communists hated each other in France and Spain too, but they benefited from watching what happened in Germany and drawing lessons from it; their ideological brothers in Germany didn’t have anyone to draw that lesson from.
 
A communist takeover in Weimar Germany is extremely difficult. They tried several times to make coups, but they failed every time. The german working classes had chosen social democracy and parlamentarianism instead of marxist-leninist one party rule.

While Reichswehr was small the German government could always have called out the Freikorps to counter a Communist coup.
 
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