Could Tecumseh have established a unified tribal-nation?

If you end up butterflying away the War of 1812 (something that under very realistic circumstances could happen.) is their anyway that Tecumseh could have established an effective Native American confederation to counter the United States west-ward expansion? This would be with them still being supplied by the British, and Tecumseh surviving for much longer then in OTL.
Would it be able to survive after his death?
 
If you end up butterflying away the War of 1812 (something that under very realistic circumstances could happen.) is their anyway that Tecumseh could have established an effective Native American confederation to counter the United States west-ward expansion? This would be with them still being supplied by the British, and Tecumseh surviving for much longer then in OTL.
Would it be able to survive after his death?

Didn´t he tried too implement some kind of religion too unify the tribes ?
 

Lateknight

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If you end up butterflying away the War of 1812 (something that under very realistic circumstances could happen.) is their anyway that Tecumseh could have established an effective Native American confederation to counter the United States west-ward expansion? This would be with them still being supplied by the British, and Tecumseh surviving for much longer then in OTL.
Would it be able to survive after his death?

No his population was to low the wasn't enough Indians to effectively counter westward expansion.
 

TFSmith121

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The problem is that British support means a larger war;

If you end up butterflying away the War of 1812 (something that under very realistic circumstances could happen.) is their anyway that Tecumseh could have established an effective Native American confederation to counter the United States west-ward expansion? This would be with them still being supplied by the British, and Tecumseh surviving for much longer then in OTL. Would it be able to survive after his death?

The problem is that British support means a larger war; lack of British support can only end in the NA being outgunned, certainly in the Nineteenth Century.

The other issue is that however a NA confederation came about, any polity that depends - essentially - on one individual is incredibly brittle; Powhatan's effort is another example.

Finally, the realties of the inter-tribal relationships and demographics were that the NAs could be a) driven into the lands of their traditional enemies; and b) swamped by numbers of American troops, militia, and settlers, certainly in the Nineteenth Century.

Consider the different paths taken by Keokuk and Black Hawk. Black Hawk went down fighting; his people were destroyed by the Dakota and Menominee after they fled west of the Mississippi. Keokuk's people survived. There's no "good" answer, absent a vastly different reality of how the Western Hemisphere was integrated into the Western world, but keeping one's women and children alive and with some future, however limited, has to be seen a better outcome than seeing them murdered or enslaved.

The strong did what they could; the weak suffered what they must, was pretty much the reality of the Nineteenth Century and before...

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