Could Khazaria ever come back?

Two random ideas:

1. Would the Ottomans (for whatever reason) resettle Jews to Crimea and give them a millet there?

2. What if proto-Zionism considered the areas of former Khazaria to be a possible place for a Jewish homeland?

I predict this will be a short thread, just wondering.
 
Possibly they could settle the area but they wouldnt be a reborn khazria, it would just be a Jewish Ukraine. The Khazar where also not heavily converted to Judaism by the point of their conquest, they where too small group to make up a large percentage of this new "Khazaria".
 
Seems a little odd for the Ottomans to do, but I can't really see it as being the spot any proto-Zionist movement would choose.
 
Seems a little odd for the Ottomans to do, but I can't really see it as being the spot any proto-Zionist movement would choose.

Well an advantage of this is that the Ukraine already had a pretty large Jewish presence and there where even more in poland, russia and Germany so this could have probably had a small chance of happening in OTL
 
Two random ideas:

1. Would the Ottomans (for whatever reason) resettle Jews to Crimea and give them a millet there?

If they did that, they wouldn't rename it "Khazaria."

2. What if proto-Zionism considered the areas of former Khazaria to be a possible place for a Jewish homeland?

Even the pre-Herzl Zionist movements wouldn't consider that as an option: number one, because there was no sentimentality for Khazaria in the late nineteenth century, and number two, because the whole point of the Zionist movement was to form a Jewish nation state outside of Europe.
 

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No, it could not.

People often seem to view Khazaria as a Jewish polity, which it wasn't. It was a Turkic steppe empire that happened to have a (somewhat) Judaized elite.
 
If they did that, they wouldn't rename it "Khazaria."



Even the pre-Herzl Zionist movements wouldn't consider that as an option: number one, because there was no sentimentality for Khazaria in the late nineteenth century, and number two, because the whole point of the Zionist movement was to form a Jewish nation state outside of Europe.

I would add, especially outside the Russian Empire, where there was an officially accepted and widespread anti-semitism. Seeking refuge from that was almost the whole point of early Zionism. No place within the Russian borders would have been seen as a viable Jewish homeland, even less so in Ukraine and nearby areas, where most of the porgoms were occurring. I can imagine the Zar or the early Soviet authorities imposing a forcible relocation of Russian Jews in some defined part of the steppes, but probably it would not have any conscious reference to the Khazars, neither much chance of success as a long-lived polity (SU actually tried to relocate Jews in the Far East. It wasn't exactly a success story).
 
No, it could not.

People often seem to view Khazaria as a Jewish polity, which it wasn't. It was a Turkic steppe empire that happened to have a (somewhat) Judaized elite.

Well, AFAIK, sources tend to give a rather confusing picture about this.
 
Can't see it happening without any Khazars, and the Khazar people seem to have been absorbed completely into other entities.
 
The Ottoman empire would never settle Jews in the Crimea since that would immensely piss off the Tatars, which were an important source of manpower not to mention the Caliph shafting fellow Muslims would make him look bad.
 
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