Consequences of united Iroquois Confederacy on the ARW?

See the title. Say hypothetically that the Oneida and the Tuscarora forsake the American cause and join the rest of the league on the side of the British from the beginning of the war. What may be the consequences on the conflict in the short term and the Confederacy in the long term?

Alternatively, what would the consequences be if the whole league was united on the side of the Patriots?

Ignore how this is done.
 
The best for the British would be that Burgoyne's northern campaign maintains a supply line back to Montreal, is never drawn into any untenable situations, and is able to keep the Americans off balance enough that whenever they do engage the British it is disastrous.

Burgoyne conquers New York state and then begins taking parts of Pennsylvania with forces from Howe. Clinton takes some southern ports and begins raiding those states. The patriot force is hard pressed, and the French are reluctant to send forces without a solid American victory. Perhaps a British victory, but the Iroquois still face a perilous future due to the weight of demographics.

The best for the Americans would be the retention of Montreal, and opening up the southern portion of Ontario for future American settlement. It is very likely that Americans will eventually turn on the Iroquois allies and forcibly relocate them as they did with the Muscogee, Chicasaw, Choctaw, and Cherokee in the south.
 
Do you think that they will be able to project power into the Ohio country and Pennsylvania to attack pro-Patriot frontier settlements and tribes?
 
They join the British, same as OTL. The Americans seek vengeance post-War, and the remnants of the Confederacy settle in Canada.

They join the Americans, it could change things, not just in the war. You have one of the most organized Native tribes, one that many of the Founding Fathers respected and modeled the USA upon, joining the revolution. Best case, scenario, they radically change how the USA interacts with natives, and the Iroquois become a 14th state of the US.
 
They join the British, same as OTL. The Americans seek vengeance post-War, and the remnants of the Confederacy settle in Canada.
From what I understand, most of the men in the British allied Iroquois nations sat out the war as neutral. That's why I think if the Iroquois Confederacy goes to war for the British it will be a significant aid to Burgoyne's campaign on New York state.

They join the Americans . . . and the Iroquois become a 14th state of the US.
I didn't think that the Iroquois had enough people and enough population density to become a state truthfully, am I wrong?
 
From what I understand, most of the men in the British allied Iroquois nations sat out the war as neutral. That's why I think if the Iroquois Confederacy goes to war for the British it will be a significant aid to Burgoyne's campaign on New York state.

I wasn't aware of that, but would the tribes be any more important for the British than they were for the Americans? Or that the Cherokee were for the British in the South?

I didn't think that the Iroquois had enough people and enough population density to become a state truthfully, am I wrong?

Not a native-exclusive state, but a state, sure. It may not be ideal, but they'd own the land, have legal rights, and more importantly, it would set a president for later "Civilized tribes" for peaceful arbitration. Again, not ideal, but a damn sight better than OTL.

Plus, they're lucky they live in upstate New York, which prior to the Erie Canal, wasn't exactly prime real estate.
 
I didn't think that the Iroquois had enough people and enough population density to become a state truthfully, am I wrong?

The Iroquois recognized their numbers. Being primitive savages, they had a strange notion of property rights whereby they planned to implement long term leases to colonial farmers, who would improve the land and pay low leases, allowing the Iroquois to gain capital to improve the land they retained directly and provide a nice sinecure.

This terrified New York's elite, who were worried about an alliance between the Iroquois and poor whites. It's possible that there'd be better feelings between the two in ATL, so the Iroquois survive as weird old money.

(Until the Jacksonian era...)
 
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