Confucian fascism

There was a submovement within the Guomindang right were quite close to fascism and would fit the bill pretty well. Fascism was by no means a Christian or purely European affair.
 
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Hendryk

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Depends on your definition of fascism. The sort of ideology that Japan had from the early 1930s until 1945 has been called fascism, and it certainly included implicit Confucian elements, insofar as Japanese culture in general is a Confucian one. Now, one difference with European fascism is that the formal leader had much less real power, and in that regard it was closer to the sort of military junta that rules Myanmar/Burma to this day.

In OTL, the Nationalists were themselves developing something fairly close to fascism in the 1930s. Of course, if what you want if an explicitly Confucian kind of fascism, then you need to retain Confucianism as China's state ideology. In order to do that you must preempt the May 4 movement at the very least, but my recommandation would be to place the actual POD earlier. In reverse chronological order, I'd suggest: a successful Qing restoration by Zhang Xun in 1917 (very difficult to pull off); a successful bid to emperorhood by Yuan Shikai in 1916 (fairly difficult to pull off); a neo-imperial regime set up just after the fall of the Qing in 1912 (essentially my own "Superpower Empire" TL); or a reform movement that proceeds unimpeded from 1898 (see Onkel Willie's "The beat down coup" TL).

While I didn't say it in so many words, in my TL wartime China does develop fairly fascistic trappings. But then it's pretty logical that an authoritarian regime intent on top-down societal modernization in a developing country in the first half of the 20th century would resort to methods affiliated with fascism. Apart from Europe and Latin America, one could also look at Turkey.
 
All fascism movment have uniquely national froms, it is afterall a nationalist movment;)
It is a from of hybrid movment but several common thems could be found in most dascist movment.
The leader princiepel, mass movment, revolt against "decadens" or another weakness that is the caus of the nation ills, some form of sosialsit economic programs, violence, very often a love for action and the modern, and firce anti sosilalisem. The state/nation is put above the individiual. And a long and gloryification of some forme of national golde agde. Norway hade the viking age, itali the romeans, germany the early germanic tribes and so forth.

No i am not good on china or Confucian thought. But if i remaber Confucian holds loyalt to the state in high regard, and thats good. Find a chines golde age to idielise, mabye the leder could weave som sort of mandate of hevan into it, blame the europeans and japanes for chinas ills, and be even more anti commi. If Confuciananisem is a forme for "religoin" you cold see fervent natiolisem mikse whit a good degree for religous fanatismen, happen whit the ortodox rumanian iron guard.
 
Wait. Wouldn't a modern Legalist movement/ideology be fascism? Come to think of it I have heard of the PRC described as a neo-Legalist. Legalism is by no means Confucianism, but as with Chinese religions, Chinese philosophies of state have a lot of overlap.
 

Hendryk

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Wait. Wouldn't a modern Legalist movement/ideology be fascism? Come to think of it I have heard of the PRC described as a neo-Legalist. Legalism is by no means Confucianism, but as with Chinese religions, Chinese philosophies of state have a lot of overlap.
It would indeed look a lot like fascism, but I think there's one element of fascism that doesn't sit well either with Legalism or Confucianism, and it's the overt glorification of violence. Violence is of course a tool of all dictatorships, but fascism went further in that it openly reveled in it. Paradoxically--or not--the Chinese ideology that adopted that specific trapping of fascism was Maoism. The Red Guards were just Black Shirts or SAs with different uniforms.
 
Finally a post on China. Went looking for a post on China since found some info. that seems not to be mentioned today even though millons probably knew about this guy in Nationalist China. And it really fits with the OP topic.

The second most powerful man in Nationalist China after Chiang was a person who took the name Dai Li. He was Chiangs righthand.

This info. on him: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dai_Li

He controlled the intelligence agency in Nationalist China. They say he had spies in Imperial Japanese Palace during WW II which I never knew before. He also had spies in Manila during the Japanese occupation giving the allies weather info. for the upcoming invasion and other things. Seems he was very good at setting this spy network in China and other nations. They say he had spies in most of Chinas towns so the people were careful to say anything negative about the Nationalist.

He hated the communists. He also had spies in communist groups. But he also hated foreigners. And and he at one point ran a fascist organization called Blue Shirts in Shanghai.

This is info. on the Blue Shirts which includes alot about China and how some were attracted to Europeans fascist movements:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Shirts_Society

This excerpts from a book on him: http://www.amazon.com/Spymaster-Chinese-Service-Lilienthal-studies/dp/0520234073#reader

Off-topic -
I found out about this guy on Avatar last airbender anime show.:D On the anime show one of the Emperors secret police were called Dai Li. So I did some checking and found out on one site that the Dai Li were suppose to represent ancient Chinas sort of secret police within the Chinese Emperial bureaucracy. But doing more checking I found out the name was really that of a famous Chinese Nationalist intelligence government official. So anime shows can be educational. :D
 
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