Confederate Military 1861-2004

[Melvin Loh]

Paras as AF

Hist, the Luftwaffe in WWII had operational C-and-C of Germany's FALLSCHIRMJAGERS, so I wouldn't see why this ATL CS armed forces mightn't do the same.

 

[ConfederateFly]

Thats what I've been trying to say after the ACW then the states would think what would happen again so they are more centralized so what would the military equipment and uniforms look like?

 

[ConfederateFly]

What equipment and uniforms would a Confederate Army, Navy, Aero Corp, Coast Police, Marines, and Confederate National Police Corp from 1861-2004?

 

[David S Poepoe]

Thats what I've been trying to say after the ACW then the states would think what would happen again so they are more centralized so what would the military equipment and uniforms look like?

Don't see any reason why that would happen. Why not post an ATL that explains all that you are suggesting? It certainly would be something different from you for once.

 

[ConfederateFly]

Then my suggestions even know you will say it is implausible is a Confederacy that is more imperilistic and more involved on the world stage

 

[DuQuense]

what is the Question

I you take a look at todays Uniforms & Equipment You notice that they are all very simular, All the Worlds Milatarys use 9mm assult guns, there are minor diffs but almost all Tanks use Almost the same size Guns, depending on the definition of Tanks size. Except for Costa Rico, or Haiti which don't have a Military, most countries today have the same Joint Cheif, and services. Even the Uniforms are are the same styles, just different Colors.

Given the Confederate Traditional Midset most TLs project. the CSA would either keep the offical Gray or the Undyed Butternut.

You should be just as capable of inventing the names of the CSA equipment, [ie their jet is the y 21 vs the US f 16] as anyone else.

No one is helping with My TL homework, why should anyone help with yours.

 

[Nosb]

Then my suggestions even know you will say it is implausible is a Confederacy that is more imperilistic and more involved on the world stage

I have an idea you might like ConfederateFly. What if the CSA wins the CW (Antietam, Manassas, Elections 1864 are the most likely, I personally believe Gettysburg is unplausible. Anybody who can deny that these are plausible is not worth arguing, since my ideas aren't going to be changed and neither are there’s.) Franco-Prussian War averted through butterflies. French eventually make a deal with the Republicans to allow a Constitutional Monarchy with Maximilian with as a figurehead with some minor powers. Mexicans follow a nationalistic course, eventually rebuilding a powerfully army (with French help) in hopes of reconquering lost land in the States. Around 1880 Mexico invades Texas in hopes of defeating the decentralized, isolationist CSA and annexing the land back to Mexico. After taking most of the state except the far north and east the CSA counterattacks with fervor. Texas, as well as northern Mexico and Mexico City in a campaign reminiscent of Scott’s campaigns during the Mexican-American War, are taken by the CS army. After the war the CSA is forced out of its isolation and annexes the string of Mexican provinces across northern Mexico to the Pacific Ocean. The resulting labor influence into the upper CSA allows the CS to industrialize rapidly.

And ConfederateFly is you ever decide to post a TL and want a someone to review for you, you can e-mail me here.

marzhukov@yahoo.com

 

[pisces74]

Thats what I've been trying to say after the ACW then the states would think what would happen again so they are more centralized so what would the military equipment and uniforms look like?

That makes no sense, its the equivalent of me going to the fridge to get soda and coming back with soy sauce. The CSA would probably keep the 1860 convention of (state/ roman numeral) with the unit being trained by the state governments and wheeled out when nesscessary. Confederate gray and butternut was made by throwing cotton in with rusty nails (grey) or a nut mash (butternut). Theres no reason to keep that convention once recognized and very likely you'd see more deviance in time of peace. There may come a convention at the beginning of WWI for the sake of unit identification, but it would have to be a "listen if you don't do this you may get killed."

 

[Straha]

If the Confederacy goes on the path of being an expansionistic, warlike power expect to see the CSA centralizing its military pretty fast and adopting conscription. The Confederacy likely becomes good at jungle and desert warfare as it does conquests in mexico, central america and cuba. The CSA likely also becomes good at anti-partisan warfare since they'd need to keep down domestic unrest and deal with rebels in the conquered territories.

 

[Straha]

The Confederacy adopting SS type tactics seems likely to me too.