Confederate govt-in-exile in Canada or Mexico after 1865

OK, is there any way, around the ime of Appomattox, that Jeff Davis & his cabinet could've fled to somewhere in Mexico or Canada as a govt-in-exile ? With what effects ?
 

mowque

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OK, is there any way, around the ime of Appomattox, that Jeff Davis & his cabinet could've fled to somewhere in Mexico or Canada as a govt-in-exile ? With what effects ?

Without getting caught? I assume the Union could probably get rights to come and get them no matter where they went...
 
They would have to find a country that was sympathetic to the Confederacy's cause, I suppose the most likely candidate would be Brazil, but even that is a long shot.
 
Mexico's govt was strongly antislavery, it'd been abolished with independence. Britain's govt was also, leading the world's efforts to abolish the salve trade, so they're unlikely to allow a govt in exile in Canada.

It seems to me you have to imagine a defeat for Juarez and the Liberals in Mexico if you want a govt in exile going there.

Anywhere else you have to imagine a govt in exile somehow being smuggled out in a ship past Union blockades.

And if they get out, then what? Imagine they become like Lithuania's govt in exile for all the years of Soviet domination. Except that the Confederates were the tyrants, which most people who romanticize the Confederacy either don't know or ignore.

Are you thinking a govt in exile becomes a rallying point? That hardly seems necessary, since the Redeemers essentially won after Reconstruction ended when the Republicans sold out Blacks with the Compromise of 1876.
 
Without getting caught? I assume the Union could probably get rights to come and get them no matter where they went...

Which is patently wrong and didn't happen historically to those members of the Confederate Government that did escape into exile. Look at Judah P. Benjamin.
 

mowque

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Which is patently wrong and didn't happen historically to those members of the Confederate Government that did escape into exile. Look at Judah P. Benjamin.

A few men are one thing. The Union wants to move on and not punish old Confederates. But a group of people who are saying they are a 'goverment-in-exile"? A whole different kettle of fish..
 
A few men are one thing. The Union wants to move on and not punish old Confederates. But a group of people who are saying they are a 'goverment-in-exile"? A whole different kettle of fish..

The Federal Government isn't going to care and no other nation recognized the Confederate Government anyway. The US Government could apply some political pressure - but for the 1860s to 1890s I find the concept laughable - and force the foreign government to kick them out, but there are a lot of nations that aren't going to care. Britain was a safe haven for revolutionaries and the like during the 19th century and they couldn't be threatened by any other government to turn someone over.
 
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