Confederate 9/11
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You've obviously never actually been to America. Oh sure, there are some nutjobs that say that the south will rise again, but that's about as likely as America becoming a British colony again.
And which 9/11 are we talking about? If you're suggesting 2001 or recently, than this is ASB.
MrP
Banned
What . . . so a load of suicidal mass murderers in 2001 and sufficient control of the state legislatures to declare secession? That seems . . . a more fragile depiction of America than I would imagine.
Yeah, umm, I don't think that any states would even THINK about seceding... umm, didn't America, well, become more, umm, UNIFIED after the 9/11 attacks?
Although, hypothetically, if ASBs were to pull this off, then I'm seeing that most of the military units in the South would stay loyal, and, given the amount of forces down there, most of the "New Confederacy" is occupied in about three weeks or less. Assorted guerilla forces remain, but really do little damage. Then, the US, with help from extra-sympathetic European nations, kicks the daylights, nightlights, and twilights out of Afghanistan.
I don't see it happening either. I'm a Southerner from a long line of Southerners and, even though the War and Reconstruction were terrible, they were a very long time ago. In this day and age, it would take a lot -- an awful lot -- for the majority of us to even start to consider modern secession.
Yes, we have our secessionist wackos and nutjobs, but the majority of us are and want to be nothing but Americans.
Blowing up the Twin Towers? Okay, for that to be considered plausible, Reconstruction would have to have lasted longer and been much worse than it was. For that to happen, you need to find a way to keep the extreme anti-South Republicans of the mid-1860's viable and in power for longer than they were.
I've got a book in my collection -- Come Retribution I think it is -- that makes the case the Lincoln assassination was an attempt by one of these extreme Republicans to knock out the President, the VP and the Speaker so he could take over the country. You might be able to develop it from there. Just remember you've got men like General Lee pouring oil on the waters and urging their fellow Southerners to be good Americans again.
Yes, we have our secessionist wackos and nutjobs, but the majority of us are and want to be nothing but Americans.
Blowing up the Twin Towers? Okay, for that to be considered plausible, Reconstruction would have to have lasted longer and been much worse than it was. For that to happen, you need to find a way to keep the extreme anti-South Republicans of the mid-1860's viable and in power for longer than they were.
I've got a book in my collection -- Come Retribution I think it is -- that makes the case the Lincoln assassination was an attempt by one of these extreme Republicans to knock out the President, the VP and the Speaker so he could take over the country. You might be able to develop it from there. Just remember you've got men like General Lee pouring oil on the waters and urging their fellow Southerners to be good Americans again.
the_lyniezian
Banned
Well if al-Quaida (sp.?) got there first, they wouldn't get away with it!
And if something similar did happen, it would probably be the work of some radical Southern terrorist group rather than the states themselves, given some of the other posts.
And if something similar did happen, it would probably be the work of some radical Southern terrorist group rather than the states themselves, given some of the other posts.
No it doesn't; or more properly it doesn't have any silos WITH missiles. Not since the late 60's when the Titan was retired.
I have to agree that this entire idea is, at best, poorly thought out.
However...
9/11/01 - Southern separatists launch airliner attacks on WTC & Washington DC.
(BTW: Since NYC & DC are right there, easily accessable, why use this method? Never mind, this would indicate thought.)
9/12/01 09:00 AM EDT - Separatists announce their plans and take credit for the attacks.
9/12/01 09:15 AM EDT - Last Separatist is killed, torn to pieces by enraged mob.
9/12/01 11:00 AM EDT - National Guard troops & police struggle, in vain, to prevent slaughter of remaining family members of 9/11 plotters.
9/13/01 09:00 AM EDT - 1st $50.00 ticket sold to piss on graves of separatists. Proceeds earmaked for families of 9/11/ victims.
If you have lived in the U.S. ALL your life how could you even ASK this question?
I assume you are at least 11 years old, so you must remember the way that the ENTIRE U.S. (hell, virtually the entire world) reacted to 9/11.
Even if it was 1861 again and some Confederates plotters managed to do something on the scale of 9/11, despite all the aroused hatreds of the era, their neighbors would have lynched them, probably setting them on fire as they did so.
NomadicSky
Banned
No person down here would do that. Even the biggest neo confederates that I knew back then took down their confederate flags after 9-11-01 and put up American ones.
People in the south might admire their southern history but they'd never do something like that.
People down here are Americans also and when something like that happens it isn't just for those yankies up north it's all of us as Americans together that were hurt and we fight together as Americans and are proud to be Americans.
I've lived in Mississippi most of my life and growing up in school every day we said the pledge to the American flag. We know who we are and what nation we live in.
People in the south might admire their southern history but they'd never do something like that.
People down here are Americans also and when something like that happens it isn't just for those yankies up north it's all of us as Americans together that were hurt and we fight together as Americans and are proud to be Americans.
I've lived in Mississippi most of my life and growing up in school every day we said the pledge to the American flag. We know who we are and what nation we live in.
Come Retribution by Geddy does indeed make the claim that the Confederate Secret Service was responsible for the assassination of Lincoln. Personally, I subscribe to the theory that Booth was a CSS officer who, unable to accept the fact that the plan to capture Lincoln and hold him for ransom was scrubbed, decided to murder him instead on his own.
President Davis wanted to use guerilla tactics to continue the war; General Lee saw the futility in it. The brighter man prevailed.
You guys are taking all the fun out of this. I bet the southerners would have said it was a bunch of crazy radicals and why can't they get missiles before they do it?
I got a better idea. Instead of a north vs. South civil war how about an east vs. west civil war?