This wouldn't be exactly what your asking for, but if the US agrees to Stalin's proposal of a neutral Germany, the neutral Germany could go red potentially.
 
This wouldn't be exactly what your asking for, but if the US agrees to Stalin's proposal of a neutral Germany, the neutral Germany could go red potentially.

Not a chance of that (except by invasion). As Malenkov acknowledged,

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On what basis can the unification of Germany be achieved in the current international situation?

In our opinion, only on the basis that Germany will be a bourgeois-democratic republic.

Under present conditions the national unification of Germany on the basis of Germany's transformation into a land of the dictatorship of the proletariat in the form of people's democracy is not feasible. It was this approach to perspectives for Germany that determined proposals by the Soviet Union to use the Weimar constitution, with certain amendments, as a model for the constitution of a united Germany. And what is the Weimar constitution? What is the Weimar Republic? It is, one can say, a classic model of a bourgeois-democratic state, created by ruling circles in German, including the Social-Democrats, trying to take into account the lessons of the First World War.

And if this is so, it is necessary to recognize that the forced construction of socialism in the GDR is under present international conditions leading to the consolidation of Germany's dismemberment and is an obstacle to the unification of Germany.

https://digitalarchive.wilsoncenter.org/document/112796

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Given the tiny percentage of the vote the KPD received in the West (which would numerically dominate a united Germany) even the most optimistic view of Communist voting strength in free elections in the East could not come close to making Germany as a whole Communist.
 
Its not that unrealistic. The whole thing begins, with the USSR demanding a final solving of the german problem. By refering to WW2, german war crimes and the massive sacrifices the soviet people brought, they convince most people in the west, that they are right. In the Geneva conference of 1989, it is decided that the BRD and DDR should be unified as a neutral federation (as was planned in the Teheran and Potsdam treaty, and was dreamed of during the dark cold war times). The two german states have to leave both the Warsaw Pact and NATO. Both german governments see this as a chance to spread their influence to the other state. To observe the unification process, the USSR is allowed to station 100.000 soldiers on the BRD soil, while NATO has to withdraw their troops. But as it was the soviets who pushed for the treaty and who sacrificed 20 million people to defeat fascism, and as the USSR has never violated an international treaty, this seems reasonable. Well and the the part we all know happens.

But I thin the setup is not so unreasonable. And there were many shady deals duduring the cold war. Also, Africa, Cuba and Afghanistan are totally worth West Germany from the US perspective. Especially if the alternative could be nuclear war.

Why? West Germany is a big manufacturing country while Africa, Cuba and Afghanistan are just natural resource producers. West Germany's trade with the US is much higher than all of that combined. What in God's name could Cuba or Afghanistan supply us with ? Tobacco and wool?

Why would the USSR do that at that late date? Nuclear war wasn't exactly in its interest either. If the US backed down over that what stops the USSR reneging on its deal and taking Africa later? What stops it from taking the rest of Europe after it is evident that the US won't defend one of its key allies? There is no way the US is going for this deal. It certainly wouldn't allow the USSR to station 100,000 men on BRD soil while the US withdraws. What kind of wimps are running the US in this alt history?
 
Here a scenario I did some years ago.

POD 1980: SPD does better, the CDU/CSU do worse in the Federal election.

This resulting in the failure of Kohls non-confident vote in 1982. An early election leads to a SPD-Green goverment.

The new Goverment reject the NATO Double-Track Decision. This results in a diplomatic conflicts with the USA, which leads to W-Germany leaving NATO and the retreat of the US-Forces from Europe. The Bundeswehr is massive reduces to establish "strukturelle Nichtangriffsfähigkeit".

1985: The decline of NATO strength the Hardliner in the USSR. Grigori Romanow becomes the new General-Sectretary.

1990: Polls Shows that the next german election will likely result in a swing to the right. The CDU/CSU says that they will start after the election rearment and will return into NATO.
Romanow and Honecker decide that they can´t allow this to happen. After massive manovers WP-Forces cross the w-german border. The USSR justify this with the ‚enemy State‘ clauses from Articles 53, 77 and 107 UN-Charta and proclaims that they Need to prevent the rie of Neo-fashism in Germany. There is only token resistance by the weaked and surprised Bundeswehr and after two days the goverment in Bonn surrenders. West-Germany is completly occupied. The west-german elections are canceld.

1991 A National People Congress proclaims the reunification of Germany as Democratic Republic of Germany DRG. Erich Honeker becomes the first State President.
 
Here a scenario I did some years ago.

POD 1980: SPD does better, the CDU/CSU do worse in the Federal election.

This resulting in the failure of Kohls non-confident vote in 1982. An early election leads to a SPD-Green goverment.

The new Goverment reject the NATO Double-Track Decision. This results in a diplomatic conflicts with the USA, which leads to W-Germany leaving NATO and the retreat of the US-Forces from Europe. The Bundeswehr is massive reduces to establish "strukturelle Nichtangriffsfähigkeit".

1985: The decline of NATO strength the Hardliner in the USSR. Grigori Romanow becomes the new General-Sectretary.

1990: Polls Shows that the next german election will likely result in a swing to the right. The CDU/CSU says that they will start after the election rearment and will return into NATO.
Romanow and Honecker decide that they can´t allow this to happen. After massive manovers WP-Forces cross the w-german border. The USSR justify this with the ‚enemy State‘ clauses from Articles 53, 77 and 107 UN-Charta and proclaims that they Need to prevent the rie of Neo-fashism in Germany. There is only token resistance by the weaked and surprised Bundeswehr and after two days the goverment in Bonn surrenders. West-Germany is completly occupied. The west-german elections are canceld.

1991 A National People Congress proclaims the reunification of Germany as Democratic Republic of Germany DRG. Erich Honeker becomes the first State President.
After the Americans left, what about the French, British, Canadian, Dutch and Belgian troops on West Germany soil. Tens of thousands of them. Did they leave too? Was the French Army on strike, even over the Rhine, when the Soviets overran West Germany in two days? Oh and the British Army too?
 
After the Americans left, what about the French, British, Canadian, Dutch and Belgian troops on West Germany soil. Tens of thousands of them. Did they leave too? Was the French Army on strike, even over the Rhine, when the Soviets overran West Germany in two days? Oh and the British Army too?
Obvious they leave too. why should they stay in a neutralist West Germany?
 
Obvious they leave too. why should they stay in a neutralist West Germany?

because west germany is an occupied country without full sovereignity who has no say whatsoever about western troop deplyoments? and because they still have a vested interest in their troops being there,given the fact that unlike the braindead germans here they know a soviet takeover is imminent?
 
because west germany is an occupied country without full sovereignity who has no say whatsoever about western troop deplyoments? and because they still have a vested interest in their troops being there,given the fact that unlike the braindead germans here they know a soviet takeover is imminent?

Pretty much. The Americans laugh at the German government and then forcibly overthrow it with the assistance of said government's own army.
 
Better question, how does the Warsaw Pact actually manage to avoid falling apart with an invasion in 1990?
Its an East Bloc, which never liberalized and still running on pure suppression. Cuba and Best Korea show that this can work, even when economical the wheels are falling of.
Or do you follow the theory the soviet economy was so down, it wouldn´t survive the strain of mobilisation? I have serious doubts about this.. And after all, its more a "police action" then a war. The only opponend is a massive neutered Bundeswehr, hold back by a goverement with a big "better red then dead"-mindset.
 
Pretty much. The Americans laugh at the German government and then forcibly overthrow it with the assistance of said government's own army.
So you say the USA would overthrow a democratic elected goverment by force, doing something they critizized the Soviets for in Hngary, CSSR and Afghanistan and turn West Germany into hostile territory?
 
So you say the USA would overthrow a democratic elected goverment by force, doing something they critizized the Soviets for in Hngary, CSSR and Afghanistan and turn West Germany into hostile territory?

1) uhm,yes? they did so all the time

2) hostile territory? "leave the NATO" was never a majority position of the population. I understood that your SPD-green (in 82? come on) alliance was somehow overtaken by its own fringe and somehow pushed through against the massive opposition. if you actually meant the west german population just some day decided "screw the west,the east is not that bad after all" your proposal runs straight into ASB territory.
 
because west germany is an occupied country without full sovereignity who has no say whatsoever about western troop deplyoments? and because they still have a vested interest in their troops being there,given the fact that unlike the braindead germans here they know a soviet takeover is imminent?
Britain most of the time considered his prescence in Germany a financial burden, it wanted to get out. Whatever stand on paper about the rights of the three powers, I think they know without the consent of the german goverment and population it would be pointless to station troops there.
 
So you say the USA would overthrow a democratic elected goverment by force, doing something they critizized the Soviets for in Hngary, CSSR and Afghanistan and turn West Germany into hostile territory?

In west Germany? At the height of the Cold War? Units would be getting orders quicker then it took you to type that up. And as the West German military has been training for decades to fight communists, it’s entirely possible that they look the other way, or even help.

Now it’s possie the Soviet’s use this as a CB for WW3... but I suspect it’s more likely they eye their own puppets and decide they’d rather not hand the US that sort of justification, and settle for making a lot of noise.
 
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