Communist Germany after WW1

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What if Germany would have become communist in the early 1920s???
Could Hitler have risen as Stalin to become the leader of the Communist party??

And what would this have ment for Europe? A communist Germany and Russia working together.
 

yourworstnightmare

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Hitler, no. He hated the Communists.

Could Germany become Commie... it's hard. There was several revolution attempts after WW1, but they were all miserably bad. You need better Communists, or the Social Democrats falling apart, and their supporters joining the Commies.

Germany and the USSR would at least try to be ideological friends in public. But they could very well become rivals, both trying to lead the worker's movement.
 

OS fan

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If this Germany saw a right-wing putsch afterwards, things may actually turn out better.

Although I think it would be more probable that France used the opportunity to interfere to break up and partly annex Germany. Independence for all separatists incl. those in Hanover and Schleswig-Holstein. The remaining core Prussia could be held in check easily by Poland, France's ally. This would leave France essentially in charge of Central Europe, with every potential competitor west of the Soviet Union knocked out. Of course, in the long run said Soviet Union could easily strike against this field of debris.
 

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Could the Bavarian Soviet Republic succeed and allow for a communist government in the south?
 
Could the Bavarian Soviet Republic succeed and allow for a communist government in the south?


You summed up the likelihood of the BSR succeeding quite nicelyh in a thread 2 months ago...

Very little. They are so far away for support and appear to go out of their way to do harm to themselves.

They have no near by allies and very close to the German counter revolutionaries.
 

yourworstnightmare

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We need a PoD that cause a complete collapse of the German Social Democrats, so all the workers flee to the Communist. OTL the Communists were always smaller than the Social Democrats, and the Social Democrats worked against the Communists. Also they'd need some kind of structured plan, not just spontaneous revolts here and there to be able to have a revolution.
 
Either that, or you would need something like the Kapp Putsch to happen in 1919, and discredit cooperation between the SPD and the FKs. Get rid of Noske, get rid of the collaborationist leadership in the SPD, and leave the rest of the SPD with the sense that the Freikorps and the rest of the far right are more dangerous than the Communist Party.
 
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