Communist/Fascist Canada

The tough part is, any POD that allows either of them is so far back as to butterfly both ideologies. You need to radically nerf the USA to prevent them simply invading and effecting regime change.
 
Terribly sorry, but I am quite new to this site. Anyway, what I meant was, can you make Canada Communist or Fascist in TTL?

That is what I'm trying to answer. In order to create a Timeline where Canada can go Fascist or Communist would require a change so far back as to put the existence of either ideology in doubt. It isn't something as easy as changing an election or even the loss of a war, to make it happens. There are deep geopolitical and cultural forces at work.
 
You are right. But, maybe it can happen. After all, if the Winnipeg General Strike succeeded, we can see a communist uprising in Canada before WW2?
The powers that be would have stamped it out hard had it started to go anywhere. And as soon as communism starts musing about collective farms the western farmers will drop it like a hot potato.
 
Well the OP doesn't say specifically a successful or long lived communist/fascist Canada. Could be a revolution attempt that initially suceeds but is then beaten back by loyal Canadian army Units and depending on the time either British or American troops.
 
The powers that be would have stamped it out hard had it started to go anywhere. And as soon as communism starts musing about collective farms the western farmers will drop it like a hot potato.

Not to mention that if Québec hears any inkling towards either of those two ends the province will just collectively shake its heads. Yes, I know about the Church and all that, but overall I don't see Québec going for any of the extremes (especially a fascist Canada scenario) because Québec in particular (and French Canada in general) is keenly aware, at this point in time prior to the 1950s, that any move towards those poles would try to turn the federal government against it. So it's just going to be beating to a different drum, which would make both fascists and communists go crazy. This time, though, even the Anglophones living in Québec would be just as wary and for once could link up with Francophones on this. (Now, if this was pre-Statute of Westminster, one could thus try to use the JCPC, Whitehall, and Westminster to Québec's advantage if one was clever enough to know how to make the system work.)
 
I think that if WW2 was halted the far right in Canada could have succeeded, Arcand and Crate come to mind in a leadership role though Arcand was more Nazi, as oppose to Chuck Crate, who I refer to Oswald Mosley light. You would also need to increase Social Credit's support.
 
It's hard for a multilingual like Canada or Belgium to become fascist, but if Quebec seceded there would could be a wider variation and potential for extreme politics in Quebec and the remaining Anglophone provinces. Quebec seems amenable to Catholic reactionary politics in some ATL, but I'm not about illiberal politics in the rest of the country.

If Canada was defeated in a war between the US and the British Empire, or the Quebec and the Maritimes were broken off from Ottawa's control by a foreign power, some kind of revanchist "greater Canada" sentiment may be plausible.

I'm curious as to what the propaganda of a fascist or communist Canada would look like, it's only a meme OTL.

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I think it originated on deviant art, but I've seen it floating around in other places like Reddit online. I guess the Canadian Imperialists would make force us Americans to agree that Tim Horton's is superior to Dunkin Donuts, then force us to accept profuse apologies for the Canadian occupation.
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Quebec was most likely to adopt a fascist or communist gov’t.
The province did not progress out of authoritarian government until the 1950s. The “Quiet Revolution”’started with unionized miners.
Quebec had also depended on the Catholic Church to run most social programs: schools, hospitals, orphanages, etc. since the first settlers arrived from France. Considering that modern Quebec is the most socialized of Canadian provinces .... would Catholic priests lead a form of liberation-theology that produces a socialist - bordering on communist - gov’t?
 
The OTL Winnipeg Riot involved few hard-core communists. Many were trade union members. Most were asking for the same sort of gov’t support - for the unemployed - as Woody Guthrie and U Utah Phillips were asking for in the Depression—era USA.
OTL Winnipeg Riot was largely police over-reacting .... call it a police riot.

ATL if Winnipeg Riots never occurred, the un-employed men would have continued riding the rails all the way to Ottawa. Their demands would been answered by more federally-funded social services and the Praires would “socialize”’before WW2.
 
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Quebec was most likely to adopt a fascist or communist gov’t.

If it had to be one of the two I'd say Communist - despite what people like Adrien Arcand, for example, or even Abbé Groulx in his, well, less lucid moments would lead you to think, Québécois/es had little appetite for fascist government in its totality. A few aspects of it, yes, but they also liked having a say in which politicians represented them via parliamentary democracy. Remember, this is also the same province that also elected Adélard Godbout, who basically laid down the groundwork for the Quiet Revolution, and trends were already moving in the direction towards greater social democracy in Quebec politics.

Quebec had also depended on the Catholic Church to run most social programs: schools, hospitals, orphanages, etc. since the first settlers arrived from France.

Mainly out of lack of any alternatives.

Considering that modern Quebec is the most socialized of Canadian provinces .... would Catholic priests lead a form of liberation-theology that produces a socialist - bordering on communist - gov’t?

Meh, I'd see the secularism go afoot no matter if fascist or communist (even more so with the latter) - it would take quite a lot for the Catholic Church in Quebec to try to keep relevant via liberation theology.
 
I know this is a little ASB and far fetched, but I do like the idea of a divided Canada, east capitalist, west communist, during the Cold War. Maybe I should make a thread on that.
 
Or maybe if Britain goes communist first also before WW2.
Britain didn't have the industrial workers and landless peasants that provided the core of communism in Russia and China, and Marxism would have to replace the dominance of Fabianism and Christian Socialism on the British left wing.
 
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