It would still be a useful tankdestroyer, with a 17pdr, of course, the 20pdr not being ready in 44.
I never said it was a MBT...
They already had something that covered the same role.
Achilles
An M10 tank destroyer refitted with a 17lber.
It would still be a useful tankdestroyer, with a 17pdr, of course, the 20pdr not being ready in 44.
I never said it was a MBT...
They already had something that covered the same role.
Achilles
An M10 tank destroyer refitted with a 17lber.
I was thinking of Villers Bocage when I posted the thread but my title was Comets instead of Shermans not instead of Cromwells.
If Michael Wittman ran into comets he would have been killed and the British would have secured Villers bocage and may have taken Caen the next day. Perhaps you would have seen a breakout fom Normandy by early July.
The problem V-B and other early tank operations in Normandy wasn't the vehicles it was the pig headedness of the unit. The 7th Arm Div came into Normandy with the attitude 'we know everything there is to know about fighting German tanks we learned it in North Africa' They then proceded to find out that Northern Europe was a different war than the open desert and had their butts kicked until the got the message. It cost them dearly. Comets wouldn't have helped much if at all. Centurians might have. If you want a what if that is the tank to move up a year or so to really see a difference. But there is no way British tank production can make enough tanks available to replace the mass use of Shermans. And the British aren't going to get the best Shermans.
I'd have prefered being in a Black Prince with the meteor engine, 6" of armour and a full size 17pdr.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Prince_(tank)
I'll see your Black Prince and raise you a Tortoise
If they wanted to have something to shoot Tigers with, would't this australian dingo of a tank been more"produceable" than antecipating the Comet
here's a photo of a 1943 test model of a sentinel with the 17pdr turret.
The 80s were the worst possible time for soviet airpower. We had the F16 and F15, plus the Mirage 2000 and F1 and the surviving Lightnings in RAF Germany, they had the MiG21 and MiG23. Only when the MiG29 and Su27 started to be built in the late 80s, and got to service use in the late 80s early 90s, did they regain some chances. Let's face it, why do you think the russians invested heavily in Air defence Weapons and we didn't. We had the fighters...
The 80s were the worst possible time for soviet airpower. We had the F16 and F15, plus the Mirage 2000 and F1 and the surviving Lightnings in RAF Germany, they had the MiG21 and MiG23. Only when the MiG29 and Su27 started to be built in the late 80s, and got to service use in the late 80s early 90s, did they regain some chances. Let's face it, why do you think the russians invested heavily in Air defence Weapons and we didn't. We had the fighters...
Yeah. Following this tangent, I think it would have been NATO airpower reducing Soviet armor en masse.
The Black Prince was avaiable on a similar time frame as the Centurion, and even if you could fit the Meteor on the Churchill chassis rather than the twin diesels, it would still be slow. If you could have one in 44, and if the Tiger I in front of you had only PzGr39 and not PzGr40 you would likely kill it. Even with tungsten PzGr40 the frontal armour of the Black prince would likely survive hits from over 500m away...
By 1945 everybody thought the Centurion was the greatest thing on tracks, and virtually nobody wanted the black prince.
Sounds like a job for Percy Hobart.