Comanche State?

On the back of this quote from another thread:

It could be Independent if the Comanches manage to force recognition from Mexico/USA/UK. But... I wouldn't hold my breath on it. After all, even though the Comanchería had a vast "Empire" encompassing the "wild west", I never even knew they had their own country of sorts until I read the book "The Comanche Empire".

I had a thought; assuming California is able to gain and maintain independence, including the deserty bits of the Sierra Nevada etc., would the Comanche be able to successfully secede from California? Would they be able to have any backers, or would foreign powers (Mexico and the USA) simply use such a rebellion to their own advantage?

The scenario I'm envisioning is of course a rather weak yet stable Californian government, attempting to populate the eastern wastes and coming into conflict with the Comanche quite severely. The Comanche, in return, decide to begin an open rebellion, raiding frontier towns, sending ambassadors to neighbouring nations, and trying to gain proper recognition for their people as an independent state.

I wonder; perhaps Mexico stirs the pot, hoping to take back the Californian provinces. Perhaps in return, the USA gives weapons and advisors to the Comanche, to curb Mexico's ambitions?

I don't really know.
 
What years are we talking about here? If it's before a bunch of US settlers move into Tejas, then maybe the US would be open to it. But I very much doubt that the Mexican government or people would support trading with people that often raided into the Mexican lands since the Comanches formed.
 
The Comancheria was mostly divided between Tejas and Nuevo Mexíco de Santa Fe.

The main problem, as with most independent Native nations, is that the Comanche did not have a centralized military or political system. Their society worked beautifully for them and their environment, so why change it? Plus, they never recognized any state having sovereignty over them and it wasn't until the 1870s when they lost their commanding monopoly over the southern plains.
 
On the back of this quote from another thread:



I had a thought; assuming California is able to gain and maintain independence, including the deserty bits of the Sierra Nevada etc., would the Comanche be able to successfully secede from California? Would they be able to have any backers, or would foreign powers (Mexico and the USA) simply use such a rebellion to their own advantage?

The scenario I'm envisioning is of course a rather weak yet stable Californian government, attempting to populate the eastern wastes and coming into conflict with the Comanche quite severely. The Comanche, in return, decide to begin an open rebellion, raiding frontier towns, sending ambassadors to neighbouring nations, and trying to gain proper recognition for their people as an independent state.

I wonder; perhaps Mexico stirs the pot, hoping to take back the Californian provinces. Perhaps in return, the USA gives weapons and advisors to the Comanche, to curb Mexico's ambitions?

I don't really know.
Glad to see my comment inspired someone.

Anyways, I suggest you fellas find the Book "The Comanche Empire" (http://www.amazon.com/Comanche-Empire-Series-Western-History/dp/0300151179). Maybe the book can give you more ideas.
 
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