Colonisation of the Kerguelen Islands?

There is no reason in theory why the Kerguelen Islands could not support a population of, say, 10,000. As a friend of mine once observed, "The islands support sheep, rabbits and reindeer, the climate will allow the growth of root vegetables and cabbages, the sea around it teems with fish, and there are even some modest coal deposits. And if you reach modern times, there may be no place on earth richer in electrical power potential; hydro, wind, geothermal, take your pick." On the minus side, of course, nobody wants to live there, the islands being cold, bleak, windy, far from anywhere else, etc.

Maybe the Kerguelens become France's penal colony instead of Devil's Island? Something like 80,000 prisoners passed through Devil's Island, but the survival ratio in the tropics was bad. Presumably in the Kerguelens more would survive and become permanent settlers.

Or for a post-1900 POD: The French People's Republic under Comrade Thorez, completely rejecting the old imperialist French state's exiling criminals to a tropical hell, instead decides to rehabilitate them through Socially Useful Labor in a bracing climate...
 
After the Brits made a success out of the Falkland Islands, the French tried to do the same thing with the Kerguelens, alas, Kerguelen Is. is even drier than the Falklands. In the Falklands, the dryness makes for horrible mortality rates for the lambs, but by using extensive farming techniques, the problem can be brute-forced. On Kerguelen Is., I'd hate to see the lamb mortality rates. I think it might just be possible to make sheep farming pay for itself when wool prices are very high.

As far as rye goes, the problem is the wind and the dryness. As for potatoes raising them might be possible, but there are more fertile potato growing areas that are closer to the shipping routes where farming would actually be profitable. Going to the literal middle of no-where to farm spuds isn't really sensible.

Dryness? Port-aux-Français gets almost 200mm more of rain than Stanley. Other parts of the island get even more. It also rains/snows almost year round, but never too much in one month.

Farming Kergeulen cabbage is likewise... Well... I don't know anyone who would be willing to pay enough for exotic sea cabbages to make domesticating and farming them in Kerguelen worthwhile.

Sailors might. Some enterprising individual could make them into some sort of soup and use it as a scurvy cure. The thing is, unlike most historical scurvy cures, this one will have a noticeable effect. Other clever souls might see how they might fit into cuisine and add it to various dishes. Apparently the roots are like horseradish and the leaves like cress.

There is no reason in theory why the Kerguelen Islands could not support a population of, say, 10,000. As a friend of mine once observed, "The islands support sheep, rabbits and reindeer, the climate will allow the growth of root vegetables and cabbages, the sea around it teems with fish, and there are even some modest coal deposits. And if you reach modern times, there may be no place on earth richer in electrical power potential; hydro, wind, geothermal, take your pick." On the minus side, of course, nobody wants to live there, the islands being cold, bleak, windy, far from anywhere else, etc.

Maybe the Kerguelens become France's penal colony instead of Devil's Island? Something like 80,000 prisoners passed through Devil's Island, but the survival ratio in the tropics was bad. Presumably in the Kerguelens more would survive and become permanent settlers.

Or for a post-1900 POD: The French People's Republic under Comrade Thorez, completely rejecting the old imperialist French state's exiling criminals to a tropical hell, instead decides to rehabilitate them through Socially Useful Labor in a bracing climate...

Don't forget peat. Kerguelen could be 100% self-sufficient in terms of energy. It's too bad it's kinda hard to export any of that potential besides peat or coal (or potentially oil/natural gas which might lie in the seabed nearby) when the place is so remote.

A penal colony there is always interesting. My favourite though for a penal colony, however, would have to be the Crozet Islands, which have the same climate as Kerguelen but even rainier and with less sun. But sending people to mine coal on a desolate, beyond remote island has a great appeal too. Maybe they would've made moves toward using Kerguelen OTL if France had lost France Guiana?
 
Maybe the colonists develop a taste for cochayuyo. Kerguelen isn't exactly lacking for edible kelps. It might not be the most delicious, but you could eat it. You could even try to cultivate various northern berry species there.

I doubt it would be a large colony - 10,000 seems about right, as someone mentioned above. You could end up with a thriving little colony of people who basically live off the sea, burning coal to survive and eating mostly fish, introduced barley (maybe?) and kelp as endemic foods. The other food stock could be ducks - maybe there's an attempt to domesticate and farm the Eaton's pintail, or to introduce the mallard, or even the northern pintail. I could see duck becoming an important part of the local diet.
 
Maybe the colonists develop a taste for cochayuyo. Kerguelen isn't exactly lacking for edible kelps. It might not be the most delicious, but you could eat it. You could even try to cultivate various northern berry species there.

I doubt it would be a large colony - 10,000 seems about right, as someone mentioned above. You could end up with a thriving little colony of people who basically live off the sea, burning coal to survive and eating mostly fish, introduced barley (maybe?) and kelp as endemic foods. The other food stock could be ducks - maybe there's an attempt to domesticate and farm the Eaton's pintail, or to introduce the mallard, or even the northern pintail. I could see duck becoming an important part of the local diet.

Cochayuyo is very nutritious too, and somewhat calorie-dense I believe. The trick is to get an export market for it, like try and get it to catch on in some part of the motherland (or other colonies). Or add it to whatever scurvy-curing mix you're putting the Kerguelen cabbage in, though of course it wouldn't be what actually makes it work.

I was thinking coal at first, but then I found that Kerguelen has a decent amount of peat bogs, which are far easier to harvest than digging the coal out of the ground. Barley, rye, potatoes seem to be difficult but doable--maybe the island might have to trade for a lot of its food--though it could still subsist in between ships, I think. Domesticating a new species of duck isn't likely, but maybe a new species of domestic duck with some Eaton's pintail ancestry? That seems to be difficult since evidently it's rare for crossbreeds to be fertile, but it could improve survivability of duck farms there, though I notice ducks are farmed in Scandinavia and mallards are known to appear on the Falklands, both of which get colder than Kerguelen.

The 10,000 number I keep see coming up--is this in a 17th-19th century context, or in a modern-day context?
 
What about Andean crops? Oca,mashua,yacon,ulluco, and of course potatoes. Pitseed goosefoot is common throughout Alaska and Canada and would make for a suitable psuedo-cereal as well as qaniwa and tartary buckwheat in addition to rye. Mallards would be relatively easy to farm as well.
 
The fact that Kerguelen Cabbage is edible doesn't mean its domesticable. There may be all sorts of issues affecting viability, including growth and maturation periods, seeding, etc. There are any number of wild edibles that were not candidates for domestication.
 
The fact that Kerguelen Cabbage is edible doesn't mean its domesticable. There may be all sorts of issues affecting viability, including growth and maturation periods, seeding, etc. There are any number of wild edibles that were not candidates for domestication.

It's evidently self-pollinating and takes 3-4 years to mature, which does seem to be an issue (our colonists can't get too greedy and eat it/sell it all at once). But for the purpose of human use, it seems like something that would have its habitat extensively manipulated and probably expanded by humans (put it in the Falklands, Iceland, etc).

What about Andean crops? Oca,mashua,yacon,ulluco, and of course potatoes. Pitseed goosefoot is common throughout Alaska and Canada and would make for a suitable psuedo-cereal as well as qaniwa and tartary buckwheat in addition to rye. Mallards would be relatively easy to farm as well.

Most were pretty obscure besides potatoes and now quinoa. Too creative for a base meant for sealers, fishermen, and sheep farmers.
 
One thing that made help - some individual ala Joseph Hooker could make a passion project of making the islands more habitable as was done with Ascension Island.

Have some similar individual take note of the islands, and work to have it seeded with plants and wildlife that can survive and thrive there, as has been done more recently by releasing salmon. It becomes a passion project for this figure and the nation backing him, tracking down hardy grains that can survive on the island, trees that can take root and fertilize the rockier parts of the islands, animals that can survive in the climate, and domesticates like the Shetland sheepdogs and ponies to live there.

Over the span of decades, it bears fruit, and the human settlements can expand as it does.

If settlement can last to the advent of wind and geothermal power, Kerguelen will have its day in the sun.
 
Not sheep and rye, reindeer and potato. And fish, seals, whale, eggs and birds.

Its the last place on earth, fit for the last people after all the rest of man is dead. Century after century under the aurora australis, the ice and the howling winds. Generation following generation, slowly building a last ship from the occasional driftwood log.
 
Fascinating - Worse Than Tierra Del Fuego!

Agriculture might be feasible if you grew potatoes or rye on hotbeds of rotting kelp and waste fish. Seaweed is very popular grazing for Jersey cattle and Hebridean sheep.

So, fish, seaweed, seabirds, potatoes, rye and Kerguelen cabbage. Coal, peat/turf, waste fish oil... Sounds like a good settlement area for Hebridean Scots, Faeroese, Lofoten Island Norwegians and maybe some County Mayo Coast Irish.

But that's an insane Antarctic whaling support settlement project... Chuck out those damned Frogs and make Kerguelen British, for Queen and Empire!

Get that Timeline started!
 
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The problem is that there is no point to the place. Even if you could wrest survival from the region (and humans are damned good at that) what is the point? The islands offer nothing of value, not pre-1900 and not post-1900. Visiting whalers and seal hunters pretty much wiped the local population out in half a century of trying (something else humans are damned good at) leaving nothing of value. If someplace has no human population it is generally because no humans can manage to live there without outside support.
 
Not sheep and rye, reindeer and potato. And fish, seals, whale, eggs and birds.

Its the last place on earth, fit for the last people after all the rest of man is dead. Century after century under the aurora australis, the ice and the howling winds. Generation following generation, slowly building a last ship from the occasional driftwood log.

Grim. But as I mentioned earlier, the Crozet Islands are more suitably grim for that.

One thing that made help - some individual ala Joseph Hooker could make a passion project of making the islands more habitable as was done with Ascension Island.

Have some similar individual take note of the islands, and work to have it seeded with plants and wildlife that can survive and thrive there, as has been done more recently by releasing salmon. It becomes a passion project for this figure and the nation backing him, tracking down hardy grains that can survive on the island, trees that can take root and fertilize the rockier parts of the islands, animals that can survive in the climate, and domesticates like the Shetland sheepdogs and ponies to live there.

Over the span of decades, it bears fruit, and the human settlements can expand as it does.

If settlement can last to the advent of wind and geothermal power, Kerguelen will have its day in the sun.

What would you use for trees? Something that can grow on Iceland? The main issue is the soil, the wind, and the fact that it never gets very warm there.

Geothermal power is an interesting possibility, since the island is pretty volcanic after all--I wonder what the potential reserves are?

Fascinating - Worse Than Tierra Del Fuego!

Agriculture might be feasible if you grew potatoes or rye on hotbeds of rotting kelp and waste fish. Seaweed is very popular grazing for Jersey cattle and Hebridean sheep.

So, fish, seaweed, seabirds, potatoes, rye and Kerguelen cabbage. Coal, peat/turf, waste fish oil... Sounds like a good settlement area for Hebridean Scots, Faeroese, Lofoten Island Norwegians and maybe some County Mayo Coast Irish.

But that's an insane Antarctic whaling support settlement project... Chuck out those damned Frogs and make Kerguelen British, for Queen and Empire!

Get that Timeline started!

Yeah, I was really thinking of making a Kerguelen timeline, probably involving it as a waystation to a Dutch *Western Australia or something. Plus someone's gotta rescue all the castaways. But I think I'd need to read more on the way the Dutch operated before I wrote that.

The problem is that there is no point to the place. Even if you could wrest survival from the region (and humans are damned good at that) what is the point? The islands offer nothing of value, not pre-1900 and not post-1900. Visiting whalers and seal hunters pretty much wiped the local population out in half a century of trying (something else humans are damned good at) leaving nothing of value. If someplace has no human population it is generally because no humans can manage to live there without outside support.

Well that's the biggest issue. But people live on the Falklands, Iceland has a huge population for all things considered, the Norse could've easily stayed in Greenland, people live in Svalbard (for the coal, granted). I'm pretty confident an initial investment could create a colony that could subsist at worst without outside help. But with outside help, you could probably go somewhere.
 
I'm thinkin' the prison-colony route might be the best way to go in terms of actually getting people to live on Kerguelen. Whaling could work, too, in the initial stages, though you'd need a reason for people to stay there - and for the population to grow - in the event that your timeline ever has a moratorium on whaling that's respected by most nations. Or, failing that, when the whales stop showing up.

Maybe another one could be some sort of fringey religious sect shipping themselves off there and settling it as some sort of "land of the free" where they can practice their faith without being given weird looks by the majority.
 
Are the Falklands really a success? Their population has never been more than a couple thousand.

That would technically count as a success since Kerguelen's permanent population in OTL is 0.

I'm thinkin' the prison-colony route might be the best way to go in terms of actually getting people to live on Kerguelen. Whaling could work, too, in the initial stages, though you'd need a reason for people to stay there - and for the population to grow - in the event that your timeline ever has a moratorium on whaling that's respected by most nations. Or, failing that, when the whales stop showing up.

Maybe another one could be some sort of fringey religious sect shipping themselves off there and settling it as some sort of "land of the free" where they can practice their faith without being given weird looks by the majority.

I would think some sort of temporary, localised moratorium on sealing (easier to police than whaling). As in "hey, there aren't a lot of seals here anymore, and we kinda liked it when there were. Let's stop killing them for a few years and do other things and see if they come back." Not sure how plausible that is, probably not by the mindset of anyone in that industry in that era.
 
If the Falklands were unsuccessful...

...Why would Argentina want them? There's oil under that there seabed.

Kerguelen needs a reason to start and keep going. Grytviken progressing to Ascension and Port Stanley, or at least to Tristan Da Cunha's level.

I suggest that reading Wiki on Tristan and Ascension Islands will give a flavour of the history and culture of a British-settled Kerguelen.

Write a TL - I need diversion!
 
Since we're bringing up all the other sub-Antarctic islands uninhabited OTL, I think all these might have had the potential be settled:

*Île Amsterdam - Decent climate, could be part of a Kerguelen - Indies or Kerguelen Australia route. Probably could have the second largest population in the region after Kerguelen.
*Île Saint Paul - Relatively nearby to the above, could be comparable to Tristan da Cunha (similar economy, based on the spiny lobster). But smaller and rather rugged, though an attempt was made to settle there.
*Crozet Islands - The Eastern Group of Crozet in particular. Could be used for sealing/whaling station--it got lots of castaways, so another Ascension or Tristan-type colony makes sense. As I mentioned earlier, I like the idea of putting a prison there because of the isolation.
*Prince Edward Islands -- The South African islands, not the Canadian province of course. See Crozet, since the islands are pretty comparable in every aspect, with the added bonus of recent volcanism.
*South Georgia - Grytviken or somewhere else on the island could have been permanently inhabited to this day.
*Gough Island - It could be Tristan da Cunha's southern "neighbour", with a small population of 100-200 people.
*Auckland Islands - Actually were settled OTL, multiple times evidently. It could do better. Any Maoriwank timeline would probably see Auckland settled.
*Campbell Islands - Pretty much a Kiwi version of Kerguelen.
*Macquarie Island - Apparently was considered too cruel for use as a penal colony by the early 19th century British (that's pretty impressive), so what if they went ahead with it? But prospects are pretty bad compared to the aforementioned islands.

Thoughts?
 
Background History of Kerguelen Crown Territory:

The POD is the 1776 visit of Captain Cook and his scientific colleague, Joseph Banks, accepted at the last minute by the Admiralty, as Banks wished to investigate Antarctic species. The voyage was marked by the first visit of a British ship to the island later investigated by Ross, but the volcanic Mount Banks [Erebus] marks the event. More significant was the advice of Banks and Cook that the French be excluded from Kerguelen Island by a British base at Port Resolution (Port-aux-Francais) and that an effort be made to establish a settlement 'to support the local fishery of whales, seals and other marine resources'.

The 'other marine resources' became remarkably significant, when Royal Society correspondents in the Channel Islands and Bantry Bay in Ireland reported on the use of seaweed as a fertiliser for potatoes and a fodder for livestock. Irish, Hebridean Scots and other hardy settlers, were encouraged to voyage to Kerguelen at Government expense, to set up fishing and farming communities in an area that resembled St. Kilda off the Hebrides. The collection of sea birds and their eggs, the use of edible seaweeds, the growth of limited crops of potatoes and vegetables, were augmented by work and supply of sealers, whalers and Navy vessels, but it was a harsh existence. The Roaring Forties and Furious Fifties allowed a fast ocean passage from Capetown to Australia and New Zealand, ships watering at Port Resolution. Convict labour was briefly used in the 1850s to mine the local lignite (brown coal) deposits, but these were mostly unsuitable for steamships although locally useful for domestic heating and cooking in the absence of wood.

The lack of forests and good coal were the death-knell of the local shipping support industry, for with the annihilation of the local seals and whales, the South Georgia bases at Grytviken and Leith Harbour were preferred. What saved Kerguelen was its fishing industry and name of 'The Iceland of The Indian Ocean', for fish-processing became an important local industry. The sealing and whaling industry left its mark in the local inhabitants, half of whom have common Norwegian surnames such as Larsen and Erickson, also in the Lutheran Church of Saint Peter and the Calvinist 'Norwegian Church', both in Port Resolution. The little Roman Catholic Chapel of Maria Stella in Molloy was founded by fishermen from Britanny and St Pierre et Miquelon, continuing a French connection.

Wind being a constant problem - and a subject of Kerguelen's famous wild cabbage - the locals were to use it for powering various small mills for Australian grain, for pumping water, for spinning, weaving and fulling of cloth, the powering of metalworking machinery, finally producing their first wind turbines for electricity in 1903. They also came up with one of the strangest applications of a windmill ever discovered - the super-cavitation water-heater, that used a perforated impeller to boil water almost instantaneously - all because a centrifugal pump impeller was badly made and heated water. This idea was a fluke, but gave Kerguelen modern central heating and guaranteed supplies of hot water; what it was also to do, was to make fireless locomotion standard on the narrow-gauge railways used in the Port and in the mines. The Royal Navy went as far as to fit a fireless boiler to a harbour launch, but decided to convert it back to a standard boiler burning lignite; what the fireless boiler engines were perfect for, was working in explosives factories - another task for which Kerguelen had plenty of room available. The lignite could be distilled to provide water, creosote and tars, leaving a high-carbon residue suitable either for grinding up to mix with sulphur and purified nitre for gunpowder, or for replacing steam coal in boiler furnaces.

Distance meant that, although the French grumbled routinely about Kerguelen, it remained a Crown Territory and formed a codicil in the agreements of the Congress of Vienna; France - equally routinely - hoped the drain on the Crown purse would make Britain abandon the islands. Instead, it became a watering-point, a minor whaling and sealing station, a haven for ships in distress, a cable relay station for the Capetown to Perth telegraph cable, a minor high-security prison, a minor explosives factory and the home for two thousand hardy souls. They had overcome problems with plants, animals, storms and isolation, thriving as much as Falkland Islanders and the Hallunders of Heligoland.

The Boer War saw some Boers in the Cook Prison, but that was nothing in comparison with the effect of the Great War, when eleven men went to sea with the Navy and only seven returned, but the manufacture of explosives was increased and there was a serious risk of attack by the raiders SMS Emden and SMS Cormoran II. Emden had captured the collier Buresk and might look for a remote coaling anchorage, although Kerguelen was remote, defended and equipped with a powerful radio station; in fact, the Emden headed for the Cocos (Keeling) Islands and was there intercepted, heavily damaged and forced to run aground, whilst Cormoran II never left the Pacific. The Second World War was a different matter, with fears of Japanese attacks, commerce raiders and German U-boats that were actually to affect Kerguelen - first the pocket battleship Admiral Scheer, then the raiders Atlantis, Kormoran and Pinguin, the Gruppe Monsun of U-boats and some Japanese submarines. The significance of Kerguelen was that its possession by Britain opened up the stormy southern direct route to Australia from South Africa, so steamers on this Great Circle route could have some air cover and escort support from the
Royal Navy and the Royal Australian Air Force, using the airfield built in 1938 as RAAF Kerguelen - one of the first official signs of a link with Australia that continues to the present. HMANB Port Resolution, fielding escorts, a destroyer and some seaplanes, was an auxiliary base using the port and harbour. Both would be seriously outmatched in the 1940s.

At first there were fears that the tiny Territory would be attacked by Admiral Graf Spee, but the pocket battleship returned to the South Atlantic; more serious was the trouble caused by Atlantis which seized a ship off Capetown and her charts of the approaches to Kerguelen. Rogue certainly contemplated attacking tiny Port Resolution and would have outgunned the destroyer, the escorts and the pitiful 12-pounder guns rigged as harbour defences, but the seas around India offered better prizes; he nevertheless briefly put in to a fjord at the northern tip of Kerguelen to alter his ship's disguise, the grave of a dead crewman being discovered a month later. The RAAF then set up a training and recce Petrol about the Kerguelen area and posted coast watchers in hides on the Crozet, Amsterdam and Isle Saint-Paul islands, claiming them as Australian Protectorates, to later French dudgeon. The dead sailor was reburied and his grave notified to the War Graves Commission, for protection and maintenance. SMS Kormoran was to approach Kerguelen, but veered off after sighting the patrolling aircraft, unaware that Royal Australian Navy authorities were informed, in the first steps of the search that ended with the sinking of the raider and HMAS Sydney. Admiral Scheer was to be a different prospect and gave poor Kerguelen its first taste of modern warfare; the Battle of Kerguelen tied the island Territory to Australia in perpetuity.

You wanted it - you've got it - now, what about info on Australian forces in the Southern Indian Ocean at the time?
 
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Dryness? Port-aux-Français gets almost 200mm more of rain than Stanley. Other parts of the island get even more. It also rains/snows almost year round, but never too much in one month.

It is possible I missremembered which environmental variable it was that was more extreme. There is something that is just a bit more harsh there though.

Of course, if the French had the idea of sheep farming on sub-antarctic islands first, they might have made a profit for long enough to get a population established.

I think the real problem for Kergeulen is that it really is on the way to no-where. People didn't settle the Falklands to farm sheep - they settled to maintain a naval base - in Kergeulen, there's not much for a naval base to do. As such, you need to find somewhere else to evolve a sub-antarctic package that makes it worthwhile to settle Kergeulen.

Perhaps if the first colonies in the Falklands had lasted longer, a sub-antarctic package could be put together early enough to make Kergeulen an attractive secondary colony? Maybe if the French hadn't given up their colony in 1766, and it had thrived well enough that French "Malouinesians" (from the French name for the Falklands "Iles Malouines") had colonized Patagonia and then the other sub-antarctic Islands, including Kerguelen?

Or delay the colonization of Australia or beginning of sheep farming there, so that wool prices stay high enough that the French attempt to colonize Kergeulen had payed off?

Sailors might. Some enterprising individual could make them into some sort of soup and use it as a scurvy cure. The thing is, unlike most historical scurvy cures, this one will have a noticeable effect. Other clever souls might see how they might fit into cuisine and add it to various dishes. Apparently the roots are like horseradish and the leaves like cress.

In the Falklands native plants got incorporated into diets, I don't know of anyone who grew native plants in their gardens though. If we wanted scurvy grass, diddle dee or tea berries, we just went and gathered them.

Are the Falklands really a success? Their population has never been more than a couple thousand.
Pretty successful, yes. Up until the collapse of the wool market in the 1990s, wool made a rather substantial profit for the absentee landlords who owned most of the land on the Islands. And up until the 1940s, whaling was similarly profitable for the Islands. Before the Panama canal opened, shipping services were enormously useful and profitable. Today, the Falklands do very well from tourism and fishing and wool farming has returned to profitability most years.

There hasn't been more than a few thousand people on the islands because at no point except in the post 1982 period has there been an economic need for more people in the Falklands. Today is a bit different, there is a massive labour shortage there now, if you have skills the Islands need, I recommend it as a place to live.

Considering how tough the communities in similar positions in Canada or Scotland have had it, I'd say the success of the Falklands has been pretty amazing.

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Post # 38 is complete...

I'll write you a battle, but don't expect you to like it - add up its pitiful defences and the firepower of the Admiral Scheer - pity poor little Kerguelen!

All contributions gratefully received... Really good ones can expect a CMII nomination...

...And my apologies to metalinvader665 for posting like this
 
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