Cold War ends with Soviet Rump State

Suppose that the Cold War ended peacefully, much like in OTL, in the late '80s/early '90s. However, in this, a few regions bitterly held on to communism, and became the new USSR. However, they did this peacefully.

Which regions would they be? Would any of them be in western Russia? They could be provinces, or perhaps centered around specific cities.
 
not sure where they'd be, but i reckon the odds are that the Russian Federation would try and bring them back into the fold.
 
Strategos' Risk said:
Suppose that the Cold War ended peacefully, much like in OTL, in the late '80s/early '90s. However, in this, a few regions bitterly held on to communism, and became the new USSR. However, they did this peacefully.

Which regions would they be? Would any of them be in western Russia? They could be provinces, or perhaps centered around specific cities.
Hopw about if our timeline's Russian Federation holds out as the RSFSR?
 
Wendell said:
Hopw about if our timeline's Russian Federation holds out as the RSFSR?
It seems what he’s looking for is a situation where both a Soviet Union and (noncommunist) Russia exist at the same time..
 
Lukashenka (Belarus' dictator, who seems to like the old Soviet Union) proclaims the USSR's rebirth (in Belarus)...
 
How about a rump U.S.S.R. formed by Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan? Perhaps the name is changed/ and internal divisions subsequently altered?
 
Wendell said:
How about a rump U.S.S.R. formed by Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan? Perhaps the name is changed/ and internal divisions subsequently altered?
Why Kygyryzstan and Tajikistan?
 
I doubt he likes the Soviet Union. He has just not let privatization run as fast as in Russia, where it nearly destroyed the country in the 90s. This I say even though I have studied economics and appreciate a market economy. The privatization in Russia was driven by a small group of people from Harvard, and the result of the "shock therapy" was widespread bankrupty, which ensured that many corporations were bought by foreigners for peanuts. Not exactly a happy scenario for independent-minded Russians. Or for those who lost their jobs.

Like in China, gradual changeIn Belarus, the process has gone slower, to make sure the effects aren't as devastating. I am not saying they do it perfectly, but it sure is smarter.. I don't see why that should be called appreciation of the Soviet Union, it is nothing like the Soviet economy.

It seems that what Lukaschenko does like about the Soviet Union is authoritarianism regarding social values. Curious that this came to pass in a Marxist country - I suppose they lost faith in the social policies in the Communist Manifesto. Seems all communist states did that after a while.
 
Soviet rump state ... maybe some central Asian republics would choose this as a way to stave off further desintegration, fearing wars and chaos. They may want to hold on to what nuclear weapons they have stationed within their borders, at the time when Moscow sought to move all such weapons to Russia before things fell apart.

Suppose they had a few nukes; that would give them some insurance against invasion. They would talk of safeguarding the Soviet ideals, carrying on as the source of truth until a better future arrives. Harkening back to stronger days would give people a sense of security and stability in an era where everything changes. They would want closer ties to any strong states they could find - China, Pakistan, Iran would come to mind. They would still hope to establish trade with the West, exporting natural resources.

"When we change, it is by our own choosing!" says the new Chairman in a speech at the recently built First University of the Southern Soviets. "In this university, we will educate the men and women who will safeguard our ideals. The future will come when there is no need to rely on foreign experts in any field - there is nothing foreigners can do that we cannot do ourselves!

"We will not let foreigners decide the fate of the Southern Soviets. Comrades, these are trying times, but we will prevail stronger than ever! We will carry the light to follow for all those of our neighbors who have doubts about the future," the listeners recognize the reference to the Chairman's plan to encourage immigration by wealthier kinsmen from northern states, "and we will stand firm with all our friends.

"Neither decadence nor mysticism will shake our faith. Neither immoral Western values nor religious fanaticism will disturb the path chosen by the Southern Soviets. Comrades, stay true to our socialist ideals! Solidarity means progress!"

The crowd cheers. Finally, a man who knows how to proceed when Moscow has failed to deliver. A man who will beat down the rebels - religious and ethnic - in the countryside until things can get back in order. A man who will allow foreign investments, but keep the media in a firm grip so that the people's minds won't be poisoned.

"Long live the Great Father of the Southern Soviets!" a woman shouts. The crowd takes up the chant.
 
Imajin said:
Why Kygyryzstan and Tajikistan?
For one, Kyrgyzstan has since the end of the U.S.S.R, sought some semblance of re-russification because many of its elites and professionals had been Russians. Furthermore, the Kyrgyz language and culture was not as developed historically as some of its neighbors. I chose the Tajiks to be part of it as well due in part to its complex borders, particularly with Kyrgyzstan. Also, having the Soviet Rump-state there could provide a solid front against radical Iran-supported tendencies in the region. I could see an alliance between this hypothetical nation and India.
 
Strategos' Risk said:
Suppose that the Cold War ended peacefully, much like in OTL, in the late '80s/early '90s. However, in this, a few regions bitterly held on to communism, and became the new USSR. However, they did this peacefully.

Which regions would they be? Would any of them be in western Russia? They could be provinces, or perhaps centered around specific cities.
Siberia, all the former commies escape. But it could really work with any region, as most new countries "elected' communists as there new presidents after the USSR collapsed.
 

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Wendell said:
For one, Kyrgyzstan has since the end of the U.S.S.R, sought some semblance of re-russification because many of its elites and professionals had been Russians. Furthermore, the Kyrgyz language and culture was not as developed historically as some of its neighbors. I chose the Tajiks to be part of it as well due in part to its complex borders, particularly with Kyrgyzstan. Also, having the Soviet Rump-state there could provide a solid front against radical Iran-supported tendencies in the region. I could see an alliance between this hypothetical nation and India.

I have to go with Wendell on this one. What WAS Russia will still be Russia, the Western SSR's wanted nothing to do with the old regime, and the Islamic regions what to be... Islamic.

All that really leaves is a couple of the 'Stans.
 
But the stans are the largest Islamic regions. Outside of that you just have Azerbaijan (Armenia and Georgia are Christian)
 
Imajin said:
But the stans are the largest Islamic regions. Outside of that you just have Azerbaijan (Armenia and Georgia are Christian)
Both of which have long and unique histories.
 
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