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1957: Eisenhower died cause of heart attack, Nixon sworn into the oval office and elected in 1960,and he decided to left South Vietnam alone.
In Liverpool England, Paul was sick and stayed at home, he and John Lennon never met.

Accordingly, 50s culture continues
 
MLK JFK LBJ Beatles

MLK JFK LBJ Beatles

Nixon elected in 1960, Cuban missile crisis averted, but which mean Khrushchev remains in power until 1971 he passed away. Soviet economy is better than OTL, no Gorbachev, no perestroika, Soviet still existed, cold war continues.
 

Monk78

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To redirect attention from domestic unrest South Korea starts a shooting war with North in the early 80s
Airstrikes and naval attacks on the north, but not a full scale invasion
American forces are given a choice to either join them or get out of the way.
 
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Monk78

After the 1979 soviet intervention in Afghanistan, some extremist central Asian officers hijack a soviet nuclear submarine while on a voyage in the Indian Ocean and try to take it to a port in a Western friendly muslim country .
How will the superpowers and host Muslim country likely respond ?
 
Gillan1220

Gillan1220

Monk78 said:
After the 1979 soviet intervention in Afghanistan, some extremist central Asian officers hijack a soviet nuclear submarine while on a voyage in the Indian Ocean and try to take it to a port in a Western friendly muslim country .
How will the superpowers and host Muslim country likely respond ?
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That seems unlikely considering there are commissars on board every Soviet warship and sub to ensure every sailor is loyal to the Rodina.

But going with your scenario, it's going to cause an international incident. Think of it as something like The Hunt for Red October. Moscow would demand the submarine be returned back immediately. The U.S. Navy and the Soviet Navy might have a stand-off in the Indian Ocean or the Arabian Sea that might lead into World War III.
 

Monk78

Gillan1220 said:
That seems unlikely considering there are commissars on board every Soviet warship and sub to ensure every sailor is loyal to the Rodina.

But going with your scenario, it's going to cause an international incident. Think of it as something like The Hunt for Red October. Moscow would demand the submarine be returned back immediately. The U.S. Navy and the Soviet Navy might have a stand-off in the Indian Ocean or the Arabian Sea that might lead into World War III.
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Also I think the Slavs were predominant in soviet military positions requiring technical expertise, so this might happen in a old destroyer or a nearly retired whiskey/ golf/ hotel but definitely not a modern warship
 
Gillan1220

Gillan1220

Monk78 said:
Also I think the Slavs were predominant in soviet military positions requiring technical expertise, so this might happen in a old destroyer or a nearly retired whiskey/ golf/ hotel but definitely not a modern warship
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Yeah, considering the Soviets wanted the best of the best to operate the Motherland's best assets. Plus, I have read other ethnicities of the Soviet Union especially the Chechens and the Central Asians were discriminated. I think that's why most of the rear guard echelon units of the Red Army were composed of other ethnicities.
 
SealTheRealDeal

SealTheRealDeal

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But in Tibets case it will be an uphill battle quite literally
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Yes, fighting the Chinese in Tibet is a losing proposition without some earlier POD, but the general premise of a head of state offering the Indians his country and the Indian government accepting isn't ASB
 
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Monk78

US military involvement in Nicaragua , is that likely in the 80s ?
Let’s say mig-21s are delivered to Cuba and citing that a huge threat Washington decides to intervene
 

Monk78

PRC sends more assistance to khumer rouge to prop up their regime against Vietnam
Can it lead to a prolonged sino Vietnamese war ?
Will Thailand be so alarmed to intervene against the Vietnamese?
 
Gillan1220

Gillan1220

Monk78 said:
US military involvement in Nicaragua , is that likely in the 80s ?
Let’s say mig-21s are delivered to Cuba and citing that a huge threat Washington decides to intervene
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The Vietnam Syndrome was still there.
Monk78 said:
PRC sends more assistance to khumer rouge to prop up their regime against Vietnam
Can it lead to a prolonged sino Vietnamese war ?
Will Thailand be so alarmed to intervene against the Vietnamese?
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If the PLA was sent to Cambodia, it would be a logistical problem.
 
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