Cold War alternative mini-scenarios thread

Anyway Soviets can woo Yugoslavs again ? Maybe by making them the regional power and satiating their appetite for territorial expansion
I don't think so. The Yugos won't trust them and they are prepared to fight a guerilla war against a Soviet invasion.
 
Can china make significant inroads in Europe after the sino Soviet split?
It seems like they had relatively good relations with Romania and Albania
Can they broaden these to full fledge military alliances? Maybe leading to Romania Staying in WP but being more loyal, to communist Chinese than USSR
 
Can china make significant inroads in Europe after the sino Soviet split?
It seems like they had relatively good relations with Romania and Albania
Can they broaden these to full fledge military alliances? Maybe leading to Romania Staying in WP but being more loyal, to communist Chinese than USSR
The USSR would come down everywhere in every way they could possibly even direct military intervention if they thought Romania was trying to truly become a contender 'snake in the grass' answering to the CCP and not the one with three C's.

Albania? Not worth the effort aside from keeping them in their own bubble with minor KGB heckling now and then.
 
What if during the initial soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 all the central Asian units revolted and thousands of them switched sides
Will it put the entire initial operation in jeopardy?
How embarrassing would it be for the Soviet?
 
What if during the initial soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 all the central Asian units revolted and thousands of them switched sides
Will it put the entire initial operation in jeopardy?
How embarrassing would it be for the Soviet?
They were actually bastions of USSR patriotism by the time the collapse happened, based on how far back that goes turning it into a "We are the true Soviets!" civil war would be cool 🤔
 
Can china make significant inroads in Europe after the sino Soviet split?
It seems like they had relatively good relations with Romania and Albania
Can they broaden these to full fledge military alliances? Maybe leading to Romania Staying in WP but being more loyal, to communist Chinese than USSR
Romania is probably a bridge too far. Albania would need different leadership, as the Albanians cut ties with China, not the other-way around.
 
I’m not sure I follow please explain
The Stans were incredibly loyal because their standard of living was at its absolute best (so far as they understood it to be possible) since the beginning of Soviet rule (ignoring the cultural repression and whatnot of course!), so what he is saying is the idea they rebel against Moscow for not being committed enough.
 
The Stans were incredibly loyal because their standard of living was at its absolute best (so far as they understood it to be possible) since the beginning of Soviet rule (ignoring the cultural repression and whatnot of course!), so what he is saying is the idea they rebel against Moscow for not being committed enough.
Yes indeed. Hell one of my TLs has a Kaiserreich-style mod where the USSR collapses in Russia on schedule but the stans keep it going
 
What if during the initial soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 all the central Asian units revolted and thousands of them switched sides
Will it put the entire initial operation in jeopardy?
How embarrassing would it be for the Soviet?
The invasion would be costlier. The Soviets would be hard-pressed to deal with the invasion and rounding up of rebellious soldiers. A horrible fate would await those who mutinied.
 
Iran descends into a civil war in 1978 with monarchists on one side and a Islamist / leftist alliance on other side
Like a Spanish civil war style conflict , lasting a few yrs
Militarily how would it most likely go ?
 
If the Islamists and Leftists have an open alliance they might probably loose with the army going to stay with the Shah, at least until he fumbles or something, which can always happen. How this would go basically depends on if the Islamists get the army to back them
 
If the Islamists and Leftists have an open alliance they might probably loose with the army going to stay with the Shah, at least until he fumbles or something, which can always happen. How this would go basically depends on if the Islamists get the army to back them
Can the army be divided in its loyalties?
 
Can the army be divided in its loyalties?
i imagine it would be, what i mean is more who gets the bigger cut, or how long the army stays with the shah. IMHO the shah at least at the start would have the majority, with a very small amount going to the clear leftists and a decent cut helping the islamists. Maybe we could see purges in the army, and islamists sympathizing officers and soldiers sabotaging the royalist effort
 
Iran descends into a civil war in 1978 with monarchists on one side and a Islamist / leftist alliance on other side
Like a Spanish civil war style conflict , lasting a few yrs
Militarily how would it most likely go ?
The Imperial military isn't going to stand and fight, mass desertions hollowed it out during OTL's revolution.
 
The Imperial military isn't going to stand and fight, mass desertions hollowed it out during OTL's revolution.
i kinda agree, but with a real leftist faction being there and maybe some soviet support can lead to them staying over anti-communism or the islamist-lefty coalition being so chaotic that they dont feel like risking their lives and jobs over it. But tbh for it to be a real Civil War like Monk78 said it would probably need for a POD that leads to the army staying somewhat loyal, im not sure what it would be however.
 
i kinda agree, but with a real leftist faction being there and maybe some soviet support can lead to them staying over anti-communism or the islamist-lefty coalition being so chaotic that they dont feel like risking their lives and jobs over it. But tbh for it to be a real Civil War like Monk78 said it would probably need for a POD that leads to the army staying somewhat loyal, im not sure what it would be however.
The lefties were a major force during the Islamic Revolution iOTL, then the Islamists and Nationalists out maneuvered and purged them after the revolution.
 
If Islamists convince some medium level officers to mutiny and they are then joined by new recruits ( the future Pasdaran ) along with a militant branch of Tudeh and MEK
These can maybe dominate some parts of countryside esp the mountainous areas while cities and ports remain under loyalists
Army and navy too will likely remain loyal to shah ( citation needed ?)
What will the outside powers do
USA : back monarchy
USSR : if they back leftists , US will intervene. If they back rebels islamists might be emboldened. Best bet is to offer SOME assistance to rebels via Iraq and talk big but do just enough to try to prolong the war. Maybe stage a false flag attack on USSR to conquer more of the Caspian basin.
Iraq: put the pressure on shah , military maneuvers , saber rattling but no invasion. That will unite all Iranians
Pakistan and Arab countries: back monarchy
 
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