Cold War 4th Block - The Unwanted - The Unloved

I had One Idea.
How about 4th block in Great game of Cold War?
Yes there was team America, then team USSR and then 3rd block of "un involved" . But how about block for misfits? The rouge. For those whose name is not mentioned. Those hated by all Enter 4th Block!

Among the members is

Rhodesia

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Taiwan

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South Africa

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Arguably Israel

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Who else shall join this Club?
Great deeds will happen, history will be shaken, world will watch in Awe!
 

shiftygiant

Gone Fishin'
Some issues with these nations: Taiwan and Israel are, during the Cold War, largely allied with America against the Soviet backed Middle East/China. Apartheid South Africa is also allied with the First World, whilst Rhodesia was a firm member of the non-aligned club (although fought a Left Wing insurgency). These nations aren't exactly the... best choice for a Fourth World. In all honesty, Communist China is the Fourth World, if we seek such. It's distinctly not Soviet Bloc, and not exactly down with America, and, if we can have more nations adopt a Chinese/Maoist model, bam, we have the Fourth Bloc.
 
To be honest, these states, including Chile under Pinochet and the military regime of South Korea, basically constituted a 4th bloc during the cold war tha, that were dedicated to the same free market principles and anti-communism of the explicit pro-western nations, but were willing to circumvent general western bloc approval and especially western public opinion and the (albeit incredibly low) standard of western capitalist ethics, in order to better support their individual ruling regimes.

All these regimes were characterized by heavy support from the western bloc, military economic and political cooperation with each other, but as well a general disapproval of the regimes by the mainstream western public.
 
Unholy alliance:

The term came to be used by African nationalists when describing the predominantly white governments of Southern Africa from 1961 to 1980: South Africa, Rhodesia, and the Portuguese Empire.[5][6][7] For example, during the Council of Ministers of the Organization of African Unity, meeting in its Fourteenth Ordinary Session in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, from 27 February to 6 March 1970, stated they were "Deeply concerned at the strengthening of the unholy alliance among the racist regimes of Pretoria, Salisbury, Lisbon and their collaboration with other imperialist powers..."

Also toss in Katanga, Biafra, and any other breakaway pseudo-colonizer backed regimes working with apartheid South Africa and Rhodesia.
 
Revolutionary Iran was very anti-western, so for the most part did not associate with these regimes, but I've read some accounts of small technological and military cooperation with the more ostrazied members of the western bloc, this so called 4th bloc.

The 4th bloc was essentially just the radical wing of the capitalist bloc, to get them to break away and form their own proto-fascist cold war bloc, you're going to need a POD like Henry Wallace winning in 1948, so you've got a way more left leaning USA. But that then begs the question of how many of these regimes would survive without US support in the first place.

Edit: yeah during the cold-war there was an actual name for this grouping, which Pre-Iranian revolution also included the Shah's regime, and colonialist Portugal. I believe it was referred to as the "unholy alliance", as posted above, which originated in Africa but then came to encompass those regimes that prioritized cooperation with the otherwise isolated apartheid SA, Pinochet's chile, and the shah's regime.
 
In international opinion yes, not isolated from America. the shah was seen as one of the most madly oppressive tyrants in the world, rightfully so.
 
Some issues with these nations: Taiwan and Israel are, during the Cold War, largely allied with America against the Soviet backed Middle East/China. Apartheid South Africa is also allied with the First World, whilst Rhodesia was a firm member of the non-aligned club (although fought a Left Wing insurgency). These nations aren't exactly the... best choice for a Fourth World. In all honesty, Communist China is the Fourth World, if we seek such. It's distinctly not Soviet Bloc, and not exactly down with America, and, if we can have more nations adopt a Chinese/Maoist model, bam, we have the Fourth Bloc.

Thank you for reaction.

I am interested more in nationalistic/ anti soviet block.
Regarding Rhodesia they did not get much of support by USA or west. They were hated by all. Same for South Africa. And Taiwan gets slowly but surly less support by USA. Refusal to sell F-20 or F-16 is good sign.
But South Korea and Chile is Nice addition to the club.
 
To be honest, these states, including Chile under Pinochet and the military regime of South Korea, basically constituted a 4th bloc during the cold war tha, that were dedicated to the same free market principles and anti-communism of the explicit pro-western nations, but were willing to circumvent general western bloc approval and especially western public opinion and the (albeit incredibly low) standard of western capitalist ethics, in order to better support their individual ruling regimes.

All these regimes were characterized by heavy support from the western bloc, military economic and political cooperation with each other, but as well a general disapproval of the regimes by the mainstream western public.

Thank you for comment. I was thinking in same way.
 
Thank you for your comment!

In international opinion yes, not isolated from America. the shah was seen as one of the most madly oppressive tyrants in the world, rightfully so.

Yes they were but is Revolutionary Iran better?
How Shah might get sanctions by west?
 
Since so many of these regimes are in Africa (which makes sense, since it's the last frontier both for decolonization and for neocolonialism), a Fourth Bloc African timeline has potential. Another possibility is this very implausible scheme for a Pied Noirs enclave in Algeria: Oranais (original thread here)

Of course, it's very unlikely, and LSCatilina might come yell at you, so I wouldn't suggest it unless you're doing it in a pulpy, intentionally less plausible setting, such as this one, which actually isn't far from your fourth bloc idea: The Luciferian Crusade.
 
Since so many of these regimes are in Africa (which makes sense, since it's the last frontier both for decolonization and for neocolonialism), a Fourth Bloc African timeline has potential. Another possibility is this very implausible scheme for a Pied Noirs enclave in Algeria: Oranais (original thread here)

Of course, it's very unlikely, and LSCatilina might come yell at you, so I wouldn't suggest it unless you're doing it in a pulpy, intentionally less plausible setting, such as this one, which actually isn't far from your fourth bloc idea: The Luciferian Crusade.

1/ Who is LSCatilina?

2/ This Enclave has potential it will be added to the mix.

I guess POD is after WW2.

I am playing with tighter Rhodesia/South Africa cooperation.
This turns to saving Katanga and Biafra.
After Nixon trip to China. Taiwan jumps on ship. Along with Israel. Hint Israel has something all of them would like. This Enclave would off course be added. Rest of them would logically join. Jimmy carter would try to push for more democracy .. Shah would be pissed and then he gets santction.
 
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