Cliche Presidents & PMs thread

Classic choices as 'the dull centrist' between the extremes of monetarism and a trade union/Bennite revolution: Roy Jenkins, David Owen, William Whitelaw.
 
With regards to the Soviet Union, Bukharin (or a Troika involving him) seems to be becoming something of a cliché, at least among those trying to avoid the cliché of Trotsky in charge.
 

shiftygiant

Gone Fishin'
I find William Hague as a PM to be rather cliched. He usually seems to end up around the 2000's as a Tory PM.
I'd like to see something in which Howard wins Leadership in '97 and Hague 'waits his turn' until 2005 or around then, but Hauge seems to be too much off a foot-in for a lot of 'Tories Win' scenario.
 
I find Terry Sanford as a Democratic VP in the late 1960's and 1970's to be rather boring after a while; yes he's pretty much an all rounder; but there's got to be someone else (Reubin Askew, Fritz Hollings, Jimmeh?)
 
Ken Clarke is another Tory one. Somehow the fact that his views on Europe are completely at odds with the rest of his party does not stop him becoming leader.
 
I have some vague ideas of swapping Blair and Benn around, with Benn becoming an arch-Gaitskilite, and Blair taking the party towards a revolutionary direction.

Nice - I suppose it is feasible considering where both of them started on the political spectrum when they first entered into parliament.
 
I find Terry Sanford as a Democratic VP in the late 1960's and 1970's to be rather boring after a while; yes he's pretty much an all rounder; but there's got to be someone else (Reubin Askew, Fritz Hollings, Jimmeh?)

Or Fred Harris. Jimmeh is too OTL.
 
Ken Clarke is another Tory one. Somehow the fact that his views on Europe are completely at odds with the rest of his party does not stop him becoming leader.

Rab Butler is the other post war Tory "lost leader" who's always talked about, even though it seems he wasn't up to the job.
 

shiftygiant

Gone Fishin'
Rab Butler is the other post war Tory "lost leader" who's always talked about, even though it seems he wasn't up to the job.
Rab Butler annoys me because he's a foot-in for any situation in which neither Eden nor Macmillan can become Leader, which shows more ignorance of the period on the authors part. That said, I don't mind him as an alternate Macmillan successor, and I have used him as a deliberately 'past him prime' figure myself.
 
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