Anne of Brittany had several pregnancies during her marriage to Louis XII:

Claude of France b. 1499
Miscarriage b. 1500
Stillborn Son b. 1503
Miscarriage b. 1503
Miscarriage b. 1505
Miscarriage b. 1508
Miscarriage b. 1509
Renee of France b. 1510
Stillborn Son b. 1512

Let's say that the miscarriage in 1505 is a live-born son named Louis, giving Louis XII his long awaited heir. Giving Louis and Anne:
Claude of France b. 1499
Louis, Dauphin of France b. 1505 d. 1515
Renee of France b. 1510

Obviously this bumps Francis, Count of Angouleme down in the succession. Just for butterflies, Francis marries Suzanne de Bourbon in 1508.

Now across the channel, Elizabeth of York and Henry VII have:

Arthur, Prince of Wales b. 1486 d. 1502
Margaret, Queen of Scotland b. 1489
Henry VIII b. 1491
Elizabeth Tudor b. 1492
Mary Tudor b. 1496
Edmund, Duke of York (and Somerset?) b. 1499

I think you know where I'm going with this. Would it be plausible for Claude to marry Edmund, thus keeping Brittany independent from France?
 
I dont think so they would give Brittany to england and it could be a future threat to Louis and his descendant.(Sorry for my numerous grammar mistake ill correct them latter.)
 
I dont think so they would give Brittany to england and it could be a future threat to Louis and his descendant.(Sorry for my numerous grammar mistake ill correct them latter.)

If Claude were to marry Edmund before the Dauphin kicks the bucket, then the Duchy would fall to Claude unless Louis tries to maneuver and make Renee the heiress in her stead.
 
After the Mad War Brittany was pretty much occupied by French troops that reaserted Royal authority on the Duchy (that was de jure a French vassal), so any atempt from the English to snach it away with a heiress will result in the French outright annexing it.
 
After the Mad War Brittany was pretty much occupied by French troops that reaserted Royal authority on the Duchy (that was de jure a French vassal), so any atempt from the English to snach it away with a heiress will result in the French outright annexing it.

So basically we'd have a war on our hands.
 
Say Claude married Edmund in 1514, they're both about fifteen years old. Louis the Younger is still living when his older sister marries but dies a year later in 1515 at age 10.

So Louis XII dies on schedule and Francis succeeds with Suzanne de Bourbon as his Queen, by which point they have a child or two.

Henry VII is dead, but Elizabeth of York is hanging around. So with Henry VIII on the throne, do you think he and Edmund may go to war to press Claude's claim since Henry and the Emperor want to go to war with Francis anyway?
 
Basically, if Henry wants to enforce his brother's claim he'll probably be more active in the Italian Wars against Francis.

With Henry fighting even harder on one front, along with the Breton lords that were Anti-French and the Emperor on the other flank do you think the Italian Wars would go worse or closer to OTL for Francis I?
 
I dont think so they would give Brittany to england and it could be a future threat to Louis and his descendant.(Sorry for my numerous grammar mistake ill correct them latter.)
It mostly depends actually on when Anne de Bretagne dies.
Until François II de Bretagne, the Breton succession was agnatic to the Montfort then to the Penthièvre. While François II certainly broke it, it would certainly be turned to Agnatic-Cognatic. Then it means the heir is the Dauphin. Louis XII would be able to reverse the change of succession law at his wife's death (or just invalid the act of the Etats de Bretagne which made Anne the heir) and obtain Brittany for France (since Louis XI had bought the rights of the Penthièvres) or just buy the duchy from his son for the Kingdom.
Then again, if Anne doesn't die first, then she can remarry and if she gives birth to a son, this one will be Duke of Brittany.
 
It mostly depends actually on when Anne de Bretagne dies.
Until François II de Bretagne, the Breton succession was agnatic to the Montfort then to the Penthièvre. While François II certainly broke it, it would certainly be turned to Agnatic-Cognatic. Then it means the heir is the Dauphin. Louis XII would be able to reverse the change of succession law at his wife's death (or just invalid the act of the Etats de Bretagne which made Anne the heir) and obtain Brittany for France (since Louis XI had bought the rights of the Penthièvres) or just buy the duchy from his son for the Kingdom.
Then again, if Anne doesn't die first, then she can remarry and if she gives birth to a son, this one will be Duke of Brittany.

If Anne de Bretagne outlives Louis XII, she'll be 38 in 1515. Who would be available or willing to marry her?
 
It is unlikely for Claude to marry a non-Frenchman for a simple reason : being a daughter of France, the King has a say in how she marries ajd probably will not let the Duchy of Brittany just escape his grasp, especially not to an Englishman.
 
It is unlikely for Claude to marry a non-Frenchman for a simple reason : being a daughter of France, the King has a say in how she marries ajd probably will not let the Duchy of Brittany just escape his grasp, especially not to an Englishman.

Who else would be available to marry Claude and if Louis XII has a seemingly healthy son around is he really going to be worried about losing Brittany?
 
He is going to be worried about Brittany because th last time the King of England was vassal of the King of France it took 2 100-year wars to get rid of England .
 
He is going to be worried about Brittany because th last time the King of England was vassal of the King of France it took 2 100-year wars to get rid of England .

Well it wouldn't be the King, Edmund would be the second son so Brittany would be independent of England. Wouldn't that make it a safe match?

But if Francis is off the market, who do you see Louis XII considering for marriage to his daughter?
 
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