This should be Redem's job.
OOC discussion for the world emerging in this thread.
Same principle as the similar thread for HDYLTW.
OOC discussion for the world emerging in this thread.
Same principle as the similar thread for HDYLTW.
On the subject of spain, my impression is that it is a major power (second largest navy was mentioned somewhere), a formidable opponent in Europe, but still not as strong in that area as it wants to be. It probably has a large number of colonies abroad to compensate. Rivalry with France is likely, but it appears that it has something of a bone to pick with the British over control of the Western mediterranean. In that region, it seems that the British have more forces but a tenuous grasp on actual power. italy has numerous border disagreements on just about every frontier and over every bit of territory,, the French probably want more Sway in the islands and north africa, and the spanish want to kick the british out.
did i mention that every European country seems to dislike every other country it borders?
Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Finland.
This area seems to be causing some confusion, with people unsure what countries exist and what area they cover.
Those mentioned include Denmark, Sweden, The United Kingdoms of Norden and the Finnish Empire.
(Norway hasn't been mentioned)
The Finnish Empire has been painted as very powerful and able to sack major Russian cities by the poster who thought it up, however other posters have contradicted this by speaking of Sweden and Norden.
My problem is seeing where'd you get enough Finns to have an empire? My suggestion is either a Kingdom or Grand Duchy of Finland that spun off from Sweden and is generally opposed by Russia.
The United Kingdoms of Norden was mentioned quite early and again has been contradicted by later posters. Norden seems to be some sort of Scandinavian monarchist EU/NATO, (someone mentions Courland applying for membership), but it can also seem like a single monarchy, (the pre-1905 Swedish-Norwegian kingdom).
For some reason this idea doesn't work for me, it just sounds too artifical, like that New World Order map that's in Chat. Of course Norden might be Norway and Denmark but the latter is usually spoken of as an individual country and the former has been mentioned at all.
Sweden seems quite powerfull and either it or Norden has invaded Polish Courland. Sweden also has a defence treaty with Britain and Portugal though the present Swedish government seems a bit right wing and nationalistic and prone to rubbing it's allies up the wrong way.
Denmark exists and seems to have spread out and taken it's own little bit of North Germany territory. Not as much as France or Poland but enough to give it land outside of Jutland.
The Finnish Empire has been painted as very powerful and able to sack major Russian cities by the poster who thought it up, however other posters have contradicted this by speaking of Sweden and Norden.
My problem is seeing where'd you get enough Finns to have an empire? My suggestion is either a Kingdom or Grand Duchy of Finland that spun off from Sweden and is generally opposed by Russia.
RUSSIA:
Russia ITTL seems to be a Great Power on the decline. She has the largest army in the world, has vassalized Rumania, and controls California (including, presumably, Alaska). However, the United Kingdoms of Norden (which, by the way, I see as a Nordic EU, where independent kingdoms each make their own semi-independent policy, but an Emperor strives futilely to maintain unity) has recently defeated it in a war, and the Ottomans want to take Rumania back from Russia. Also, the British Dominions are arrayed against Russian California. Also, a "Caucasian War" is mentioned; presumably this was fought with the Ottoman Empire (Poland is mentioned as participating, also).
This Russia is ruled by Czars, presumably Romanovs, and it is as yet unspecified whether this is an absolute monarchy.
TECHNOLOGY:
The technology ITTL seems about the same or mildly more advanced than ours. There is a space station, however, it is under purely British control (I believe). The British also have the "Moon VI", a telecommunications satellite in orbit over the UK. Tanks exist, and are called kampvogns. Most people get their news off of either "NewsNet" or "DataWire". DataWire is run by Tories, and NewsNet is run by an opposing party.
Regarding the DataWire, someone who reads NewsNet said, in reply to Landshark's comments regarding it being untrustworthy, that the Tory DataWire was just as bad.
Ugh, we all know why Tories hate NewsNet
No one, on NewsNet or elsewhere said anything about "Cossacks in Paris", "World Wars" or "Krakow being bombed flat"
Sounds more like something your DataWire would pump out to me
I assume that the PoD is France doing better in the War of the Grand Alliance, followed by a stronger Sweden which conquers Denmark-Norway and an alternate outcome for the War of the Spanish Succession...
How would Calais remain English with a POD in the 1690's?
Good point...![]()
That was the best I could come up with at the time, though...![]()