Ricardolindo
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What if Churchill had retired after the 1945 general election? Who would succeed him as Conservative Party leader? How would this affect UK politics?
Churchill apparently hated Eden, and basically stayed on to prevent him from taking office.
That assumes France would agree to do that.If Churchill had just managed to last until 1960 he would have probably agreed to a union with France
Still won't make a superpower.creating a third superpower.
Eden was useless and contributed to the Suez crisis.
If Churchill had just managed to last until 1960 he would have probably agreed to a union with France and averted the Suez crisis, thus creating a third superpower. (He actually drew this up himself in 1940.)
Retrospectively if Churchill had retired Eden would have just caused more chaos between 1950/1-55.
There is clear distinction between competent and incompetent politicians in this case.
Err, what? Where do you get this from? The French rejected this crazy bit of Churchillian machination out of hand in 1940 when they were balls to the wall. Why the hell would they contemplate it in 1956?
If Churchill had just managed to last until 1960 he would have probably agreed to a union with France and averted the Suez crisis, thus creating a third superpower. (He actually drew this up himself in 1940.) Retrospectively if Churchill had retired Eden would have just caused more chaos between 1950/1-55. There is clear distinction between competent and incompetent politicians in this case.
That assumes France would agree to do that.
Err, what? Where do you get this from? The French rejected this crazy bit of Churchillian machination out of hand in 1940 when they were balls to the wall. Why the hell would they contemplate it in 1956?
It's something which bubbles up on this board from time to time. It's based on Guy Mollet, the Anglophile French PM at the time of Suez, batting around some fairly bizarre schemes for a union between France and the UK, or at least France joining the Commonwealth.
Needless to say, union between the two countries had not the slightest chance of being accepted in either country, and even the mildly more realistic prospect of France joining the Commonwealth would have likely caused uproar in France if it had emerged Mollet had been pushing it.
That assumes France would agree to do that.
Still won;t make a superpower.
The sole purpose was to keep France from signing the armistice. Can't see it lasting beyond the war.Actually, in 1940, the union appears to have had a good chance of happening, both Churchill and De Gaulle supported it. It would be completely impossible for it to happen in 1956, though.
It's something which bubbles up on this board from time to time. It's based on Guy Mollet, the Anglophile French PM at the time of Suez, batting around some fairly bizarre schemes for a union between France and the UK, or at least France joining the Commonwealth.
Wow. Do you have a link to any reference to it? I’ve read a couple of histories of Suez and neither of them mention it that I remember. I just don’t see how an Anglo-French Union would help or resolve the Suez Crisis in any way. Or how it would be implemented. Bizarre.
The sole purpose was to keep France from signing the armistice. Can't see it lasting beyond the war.