Churchill goes fascist

Stephen

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What if Winston Churchill has change of heart and begins to like Hitler. So he instead devote all his skill at rhetoric and politics to antisemitism and anticommunism.
 
Beware the anger of brits around. You WILL face anger from many in a short time. If not worse.

I doubt he would like Hitler, being a conservative and nationalist, and while he was I think really racist to blacks and indians, it was old world, old-fashioned racism, not the new ones by the nazi 'rabble' and more moderate to say the least.
 
Shunting aside the fact that Churchill hated fascists with a passion, Britain would not respond well to what would be percieved as pushing the country closer to war.
 
I doubt he would like Hitler, being a conservative and nationalist, and while he was I think really racist to blacks and indians, it was old world, old-fashioned racism, not the new ones by the nazi 'rabble' and more moderate to say the least.

Agreed, quite a difference between Churchill and those like him within the empire and the tact the Reich took. While not very palatable in today's world, the old boys view that the "natives" were not capable or deserving of self rule is ALOT easier to swallow then railroad cars to death camps.
 
Ignoring the implausibility of one of the few who early one hated fascism even more than communism...
European fascism took place when the old elites lost power. Demagogues filled the void of Churchills and Bismarcks, so to speak, so Churchill would just be a background player in British fascism.
 
I think the relevant Churchill quote, from 1937, is "One may dislike Hitler's system and yet admire his patriotic achievement. If our country were defeated I hope we should find a champion as indomitable to restore our courage and lead us back to our place among the nations."

Given his track record as Home Secretary, his later behaviour during the General Strike, his attitude to Empire, it's not hard to imagine that if Britain somehow lost WWI and followed the same course as Germany did after its defeat, then Churchill would end up plowing a fascist furrow in the 20s and 30s. I don't think he's ever going to quite be Hitler, but I can certainly see him being Mussolini (someone else he expressed admiration for). Brutal and undiscriminating anti-communism is a given, and while I doubt Churchill would become one himself his party will certainly include anti-Semites.
 
I see Churchill's quote from '37 as entirely consistent with his later actions. The HUGE difference between Churchill and Hitler was that he always saw himself as serving the state not as being the state.

I cannot see Churchill participating in a Nazi style fascism at all. The Italian model could be implemented in the aftermath of a far worse general strike but it would probably be couched in the terms of a "Unity Government" supported by the King against Communist rabble rousers. The "scapegoats" for this version of fascism would be political not ethnic or religous
 
The post says fascism not nazism.

Churchill admired Mussolini greatly. He was not alone among western conservatives.

Hitler he really never liked. I suspect that was because of his class attitude rather than any foresight of what Hitler was like until after 1937.
 
Its not too much of a stretch.
He was a very right wing communist hating racist....
The problem I guess is he was also classist, fascism is very founded in populism. Couldn't see him pandering to the commons like that.
 
I cant see Churchill ever behaving like this. He wasnt stupid, and he would know that openly supporting fascist ideas would pretty much destroy his political career in the UK.
The people were not willing to accept that kind of mentality (as evidenced by the troubles that did happen in OTL with Mosley) and the actions of Hitler further alienated them from the mainstream.
 
What if Winston Churchill has change of heart and begins to like Hitler. So he instead devote all his skill at rhetoric and politics to antisemitism and anticommunism.
Someone else leads the UK through World War II and most people today would have never heard his name.
 
Massively unlikely. ASB in fact.

Now, he was anticommunist quite, and tried to warn peoples on the dangers of USSR, so him becoming rabidly anticommunist, it's not too far. But probably in his later days, and it woN,t be facism, more like british maccarthism...
 
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