Christian state in India.

I definitely understand what you mean about the bishops. Each time one shows up at church it seems like everyone goes apeshit. Heck people will wait for a good hour after the service just to get a blessing from him. I still remember having quite a few arguments with my dad over it when I was younger. His entire argument boiled down to he is ordained to be a bishop by God and therefore getting a blessing from him somehow gets you into the inside track. I finally gave up when I realised that no matter what I said about him being a man, the fact of the matter was you cannot overturn tradition.

Hell, my dad's serving as Vice-President of the church here in Singapore and he's tearing his hair out trying to get anything done because every decision either has to go all the way back to India and the bishop in charge of SE Asia and Australia or gets squashed by a few traditionalists in meetings.
 

Cook

Banned
Hell, my dad's serving as Vice-President of the church here in Singapore and he's tearing his hair out trying to get anything done because every decision either has to go all the way back to India and the bishop in charge of SE Asia and Australia or gets squashed by a few traditionalists in meetings.

I stayed with Bishop Belo’s family in Dili when I was rebuilding there, everyone was upset that I didn’t kiss his ring:D, except the Bishop himself, he seemed like a nice guy and didn’t give a rat’s about it.
:)
 
I just had a vision of Portuguese explorers, having struggled to get to India, landing and being informed by the both the Emperor and Patriarch, that the Bishop of Rome's writ does not run in India...
 
I just had a vision of Portuguese explorers, having struggled to get to India, landing and being informed by the both the Emperor and Patriarch, that the Bishop of Rome's writ does not run in India...

In my Vijayanagara TL I have the Nasrani trigger an all-out uprising against the Portuguese and swearing vassalage to the Vijayanagari Emperor, essentially becoming one of his loyalist power blocs and securing the protected status of Christians and Jews in the Empire for all time. In the 19th C, Kerala and Malaya, as provinces of Vijayanagara become prime emigration destinations for European Jews fleeing pogroms.
 
In my Vijayanagara TL I have the Nasrani trigger an all-out uprising against the Portuguese and swearing vassalage to the Vijayanagari Emperor, essentially becoming one of his loyalist power blocs and securing the protected status of Christians and Jews in the Empire for all time. In the 19th C, Kerala and Malaya, as provinces of Vijayanagara become prime emigration destinations for European Jews fleeing pogroms.

My vision is more of an Eastern Orthodox India where Hinduism met the fate of the Greek and Roman gods and a Christian Empire was able to withstand both the invasions of Muslims (Mongols? Did they get to India?) and later on the Western Europeans.
 
I seem to recall a POD of European analogues to the Roma fleeing to India and China. Maybe have something along the lines of that invade India ala Seljuk Turks did to Persia and the Middle East and convert to a local Indian sect of Christianity or be nominally Christian.
 
Sai'd Mohammed, some of us don't have really great vision and would love to read what you post but can't due to your use of such a tiny font. Care to kick it up a notch to match everyone else's so that we can see what you have to contribute?
 
Sai'd Mohammed, some of us don't have really great vision and would love to read what you post but can't due to your use of such a tiny font. Care to kick it up a notch to match everyone else's so that we can see what you have to contribute?

I apologize but I can't help it. I love the small font.

Perhaps we can make it interesting and have a European ATL analogue to the Roma (who are of Indian origin) to invade India and convert to the local variant of Christianity?
 
I'm reading a book on the Grand Strategy of Byzantium and it mentions how the Empire reached out to beyond whoever was on its borders and paid them to attck the Empires neighbours/enemies. In addition it undertook missionary work to create religious bond and used these to enhance security. Is it possible that such efforts could find these Indian Christians and give them a boost?
 
I'm reading a book on the Grand Strategy of Byzantium and it mentions how the Empire reached out to beyond whoever was on its borders and paid them to attck the Empires neighbours/enemies. In addition it undertook missionary work to create religious bond and used these to enhance security. Is it possible that such efforts could find these Indian Christians and give them a boost?


perhaps pay off some Christianized Turks....oh the butterflies :D
 

Keenir

Banned
I'm reading a book on the Grand Strategy of Byzantium and it mentions how the Empire reached out to beyond whoever was on its borders and paid them to attck the Empires neighbours/enemies. In addition it undertook missionary work to create religious bond and used these to enhance security. Is it possible that such efforts could find these Indian Christians and give them a boost?

sure....look how far east the Seljuk Turks spread.
 
My vision is more of an Eastern Orthodox India where Hinduism met the fate of the Greek and Roman gods and a Christian Empire was able to withstand both the invasions of Muslims (Mongols? Did they get to India?) and later on the Western Europeans.

what is the analog between greek/roman religion and hindu religion to justify for the disappearance of hinduism. the only similarity i see is being called pagan religions by abrahamic faiths.
 
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