I can't tell if this is sarcasm, but the fact is: they probably won't.
Sorry; you can never tell.Yes, it was total sarcasm.
Considering Afghan effort to make ethnically based anti Pakistan movements have typically failed miserably due to a large presence of Pakistani nationalism in these communities, I guess not.By this same logic, you could say the Pashtuns and Balochs care more about their coethnics across the border than about Pakistan.
NOTE: I do not support any such scenerio irl. This would undoubtedly be horrible for everyone involved, and make the situation quite horrible. But that said, morbid curiosity gets the better of us all.
What if there was a partition or political movement in the middle east for Christians all over the region to migrate into one area, and for the muslims of that area to migrate elsewhere? As a sort of equivalent to Pakistan, where muslims from all over south Asia went to Pakistan, and Hindus from Pakistan migrating to India.
This would include all sorts of Christians. Greeks, Armenians, Assyrians, Maronites, Chaldeans, Christian Arabs, even Copts if Egypt is involved in this. Muslims would include Sunni, Shia, Ibadi, Druze, etc. Jews could go either way.
How could this happen? Maybe if the Ottoman Empire collapses hard on religious lines and not ethnic ones? And where would the area of Christian resettlement be? I was thinking the most plausible area would be the greater Armenia region plus Pontus, or somewhere around there.
And what would the new country be called? And how would it and its Muslim neighbor(s) handle their diplomatic relations from here on out?
This is quite true, but there was significant transfer of Assyrians, Armenians and other Christians in Lebanon. In some ways, its original setup as a country is closer to what happened to Pakistan than many realize, except that, of course, Maronites were specifically supposed to be the dominant group, and Muslims were never exactly excluded entirely from national identity.I can't tell if this is sarcasm, but the fact is: they probably won't.
Lebanon was set up to be Catholic (Maronite), not Christian. Maronites in Lebanon don't really get along particularly well with Orthodox churches in the country.
Maronite forces in Lebanon might welcome allies from other Christian sects, but they're not going to be hailing them as brothers-in-religion or anything.
Is it pakistani nationalism or self interest? pashtuns of pakistan have a lot more to gain by being citizens of Pakistan than oweing their allegiance to kabul.If pashtuns had sided with Kabul today you would not have millions of them in Karachi! And financially being business owners in Karachi and generals in pak army is far more lucrative than trying to survive in Afghanistan.Considering Afghan effort to make ethnically based anti Pakistan movements have typically failed miserably due to a large presence of Pakistani nationalism in these communities, I guess not.
It certainly did but the key issue was not geographical isolation even if Bengal bordered punjab the separation would have happened the hatred amongst bengalis for pskistanis had reached epic proportions even before Pakistani military operation.And vicious atrocities were committed by both sides in this war not just by pak army, after this nothing short of a civil war would have ensued.But geographical dislocation certainly exasperated the issue, even if there where some cultural elements.
Well, this is my point. Who's to say a similar situation can't occur with Greeks and Armenians in this new country?Considering Afghan effort to make ethnically based anti Pakistan movements have typically failed miserably due to a large presence of Pakistani nationalism in these communities, I guess not.
If I may ask? What made the disparity between Bengalis and west Pakistanis so huge? Why would it be any larger than the disparity between say Balochis and Punjabis?It certainly did but the key issue was not geographical isolation even if Bengal bordered punjab the separation would have happened the hatred amongst bengalis for pskistanis had reached epic proportions even before Pakistani military operation.And vicious atrocities were committed by both sides in this war not just by pak army, after this nothing short of a civil war would have ensued.
If I may ask? What made the disparity between Bengalis and west Pakistanis so huge? Why would it be any larger than the disparity between say Balochis and Punjabis?
It’s often forgotten is that t(e secessionist and rebels remained minority pretty much throughout 1971. One of the reasons why Pakistan Army was able to suppress the insurgency and why India had to actually invade with a 5-1 ratio.It certainly did but the key issue was not geographical isolation even if Bengal bordered punjab the separation would have happened the hatred amongst bengalis for pskistanis had reached epic proportions even before Pakistani military operation.And vicious atrocities were committed by both sides in this war not just by pak army, after this nothing short of a civil war would have ensued.
No I don't know Urdu sadlyHow can I explain without sounding prejudiced ....
Do you understand urdu? I can post a video of a historian/ journalist
To summarizeNo I don't know Urdu sadly
Secessionists maybe a minority but they had indian support even before start of the war and it is doubtful pak army suppressed their activities completely.To succewd
It’s often forgotten is that t(e secessionist and rebels remained minority pretty much throughout 1971. One of the reasons why Pakistan Army was able to suppress the insurgency and why India had to actually invade with a 5-1 ratio.
I understand now, but I have one more quip about the language part.To summarize
Languages and script totally different
Economically the landed aristocracy of west vs socialist leaning bengali intellectuals / leaders
Diet food and customs of east seemed alien and primitive to westerners
The west had this notion of being "martial races" restricted bengali enrollment in military
Alienation of bengalis against west by indian propaganda
Elites of west and east rarely intermarried
If you can read " Dead reckoning " by sharmila Bose a more balanced account of the war atrocities
Not linguistically gifted but Given Afghans regularly plundered punjab for hundreds of yrs I'm assuming they could communicate better with each other than distant bengalisI understand now, but I have one more quip about the language part.
Wouldn't Punjabi and Sindh be closer to Bengali than to Balochi and Pashto? Since the former 3 are indo aryan and the latter 2 are iranic?
WTF are you talking about. Suhrawardy was PM of Pakistan. One of three Bengali’s to be.The discrimination against bengali was so bad that the guy who won Bengal for Muslim league HS suhrwardy was declared enemy agent and forbidden to travel for many yrs by west pakistan elite.
But bengalis are not completely innocent either given the way they were in no mood to compromise right from the beginning.
Excuse me ! that came later and lasted for a very short time maybe 1 yr in office , unceremoniously deposed by iskandar mirzaWTF are you talking about. Suhrawardy was PM of Pakistan. One of three Bengali’s to be.