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OK, as the title said, how can we have a Christian Japan (Orthodox or Catholic are prioritized) in a world where Gibraltar still owned by Andalus or other Moorish powers, and England is also a colony of Muslim Iberia? So no Catholic Spain, Portugal, or England. How?

I think Eastern Orthodox has a better chance on this, but don't know how.

Thanks in advance!
 
Western Europe has apparently been curbstomped. So I would vote for the Byzantines filling the role, though how it would work is beyond me. Does Japan have anything Byzantine traders would want?
 
Western Europe has apparently been curbstomped. So I would vote for the Byzantines filling the role, though how it would work is beyond me. Does Japan have anything Byzantine traders would want?

Tentacle porn? :p

But seriously, perhaps some kind of timber, or fish. But then again, there are closer places to get these goods from...
 
Tentacle porn? :p

But seriously, perhaps some kind of timber, or fish. But then again, there are closer places to get these goods from...

Yeah. And unlike western Europe, there's no reason to stop by there on the way to China - quite the contrary.

Using western to mean the geographical half of the (sub)continent.
 
OK, as the title said, how can we have a Christian Japan (Orthodox or Catholic are prioritized) in a world where Gibraltar still owned by Andalus or other Moorish powers, and England is also a colony of Muslim Iberia? So no Catholic Spain, Portugal, or England. How?

I think Eastern Orthodox has a better chance on this, but don't know how.

Thanks in advance!


Simple, have China have a christian patriarchate.
 

Arrix85

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Simple, have China have a christian patriarchate.

how is that simple? You got a lot of Muslims between China and the Christian Europe and missionaries wouldn't be exactly welcome to pass, not to mention the lack probably of effectivness even if they get there.
 
how is that simple? You got a lot of Muslims between China and the Christian Europe and missionaries wouldn't be exactly welcome to pass, not to mention the lack probably of effectivness even if they get there.

Have the Nestorians in China establish their own sect of Christianity in China then create a Patriarchate.
 

Arrix85

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if we take the Chinese Christian sect as a given, how would that translate into a christian Japan? I mean while with a stretch I can see a slightly more easy spread of Christians in China (since that wouldn't come with increasingly meddlesome strangers on the coast), I don't see it becoming so culturally dominant to spread to Japan...

to get to the challenge... I don't think you can have a muslim Engand without a more deep penetration of Arabs into Europe, so the simplified answer would be a different battle of Poitiers, but I don't think that would be enough, something must prevent the Caliphate from breaking up (I have absolutely no idea what, I'm not an expert of Arab history). If the Caliphate doesn't break up and manage to expand more the situation for Christianity would be even worse at least most France and Italy would be also conquered and some areas in the Balkans, the Slavs or the Magyars could convert and so on (In the end I think the England wouldn't be conquered). A situation like this surely would kill the vitality of the Christian religion or at least its ability to spread... so Japan is out of the question (at least for me).
 
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