Chiang Kai-Shek goes to Germany: An Axis China Timeline

1944 - July-December - Asian Front:
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Japanese Battleship Yamato on a "Revenge Raid" on Chinese coastal cities.
1944 - July-December - Asian Front:
Asia was already a bloody, brutal front - but it descended even further into madness and barbarism with the Tokyo Firebombing. Using a fleet of high altitude zeppelins, the NRA unleashed the new synthetic “NAPALM” weapons that Sino-German scientists had uncovered a few months before. Using a delayed timing device, the Napalm bombs exploded just a few meters above ground - showing the rooftops with burning liquid. Combined with an unseasonal heat wave and drought - the firebombing started a conflagration that would kill nearly 100,000 Japanese and leave a million displaced. Adding insult to injury, the crown Princess Shigeko was badly burnt.

After this - all bets were off in the war between Japan and China. Previously dettered by her partners in Britain and France, Japan now resorted to unleashing biological horrors - attempting to bomb chinese cities with the black death bombs. Japan now used her vast battlefleets to pummel Chinese coastal shipping.

And the Chinese responded in turn - Chinese airships would continue to bomb Japanese cities with effective firebombs and attempt to drop incendiaries on Japanese agriculture and burn down the forests with the Napalm bombs.

In this swirling maelstorm of madness and brutality, the American conscience finally woke up. The 1944 election would be fought on a lot of issues - but one of them was President Wallace’s ‘moral foreign policy’ agenda. If re-elected, Wallace pledged to halt all trade with the warring powers and organize a peace conference. His opponent - Dewey wanted to keep business going and America right out of the quagmire.

Perhaps if it had been 4 years earlier, Dewey could’ve made the case that continued trade with all powers were essential to the American recovery. But by 1944, the Great Depression was well behind America and while the Midwest industrial states that relied on American trucks from Ford and others to be sold to Germany and the Soviet Union and American Tanks to be sold to China responded to Dewey’s message. As did the oil states of California and Texas that relied on American oil to be sold to Japan, France, China, Germany - and after the Chinese advance on the caucuses - the Soviet Union.

But it was not enough. President Henry A Wallace and his running mate Truman would defeat Dewey in a closely fought election. America was sickened - sickened by the Franco-British massacres of their colonial peoples and of the Bengal famine. Sickened by Soviet atrocities in Poland. Sickened by the German occupation of the Scandinavias and of the ‘scouring of Sofia.’ Sickened by the Japanese rape of Nanning, the biological weapons, the shelling of cities and - she was even sickened by the Chinese atrocities in Japan with the firebombings and forest burnings. Most Americans were sick of the steady diet of misery and conflict and hated what their country had become - mere merchants of death with their prosperity built on the backs of misery and destruction across the world. Merely two weeks after his election, President Wallace would issue an executive order halting all trade to the warring parties and announced that America would host peace talks in San Francisco.


The Central Asian Front:
Impressed by General Tukachevsky’s performance in Mongolia, he was promoted to Field Marshal and sent to command the Central Asian Front. The hapless Kulik was demoted and sent to command Mongolia. Although Tukachevsky was unable to prevent the Axis liberation of Iran, he beat Marshall Bufeng twice - encircling two armies. At Baku in August, capturing 200,000 Chinese and Persian troops and then again at Nukus in December, capturing 250,000 Chinese troops and other soldiers from the newly created independent republics of Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Tajikstan.

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Republic of India troops advancing West towards the People's Republic of India.
The Indian Front:
The Indian theater continued to stagnate. The People’s Republic of India, although seemingly cut off from Soviet assistance by the Axis liberation of Iran, was easily supplied from the sea. Their troops and their soviet allies dug in, holding firm against the offensives by Bose’s Republic in the East and against Afghani-Chinese troops in the West.

Bose’s Republic of India focussed most of its’ efforts against the People’s Republic of India, believing that the troops would find themselves out of supply but they later realized that boats were an actual thing and stopped offensive operations by August, consolidating their position.

The Dominion of India held the line, declining Japanese troops as they did not want this conflict which was surprisingly civil for a civil war to escalate into a Sino-Japanese style grudgematch.

The Indochinese Front:
As the only front with Japanese and Chinese ground troops fighting, the Indochinese front was home to brutal combat between the NRA and the IJA where no quarter was taken or given. Despite all the storm and fury, the front had not actually substantially changed by December from where it was.

The Mongolian Front:
The arrival of the hapless Kulik gave the Chinese troops a much needed reprieve. Tukachevsky had taken the LRDG’s with him and their equipment and used them to great effect. In the meantime, General Kulik was content to stare at the equally disgraced General Tang Enbo (who had been in command of the Xian Army District at the time of the Xian Incident) across the long strech of barbed wire and mines.

The Manchurian Front:
The Manchurian Front went quiet. A welcome retrieve for Marshal Du’s troops that were struggling with compromised supply lines and having to aid the flood refugees. The BIS’ interrogation of captured Soviet troops revealed that the bulk of them were being transferred West, but they didn’t know why or where or what for - only that a large portion of Soviet troops were being transferred to the West in June and July. Where the hammer blow would fall in the West was unknown in Berlin and Nanking - but not in Moscow or London.
 
And oddly, it was alive on and off for several months. I honestly forgot how often it had been updated, instead thinking it was just people commenting.

Anyways, @CCA, what is the general situation in India now? I just saw directions mentioned, but not the general details. Bengal and Assam are with Bose, but are Bihar and East Bengal as well? Are we currently looking at the Dravidians (well, half at least) in one side, the Soviets backing people in Pakistan, and there is a huge block in the Sentralbord that it's going to be split up?

I'll put a (bad) map up again tonight of where the front in India is at.
 
Impressed by General Tukachevsky’s performance in Mongolia, he was promoted to Field Marshal and sent to command the Central Asian Front.
Wow, he must've done really well for Stalin to give him such a promotion just a year after trying to get rid of him. Those encirclements are going to hurt the Chinese badly. Have they even experienced losing many men at once to encirclement in this war yet?
 
the NRA unleashed the new synthetic “NAPALM” weapons that Sino-German scientists had uncovered a few months before. Using a delayed timing device, the Napalm bombs exploded just a few meters above ground - showing the rooftops with burning liquid. Combined with an unseasonal heat wave and drought - the firebombing started a conflagration that would kill nearly 100,000 Japanese and leave a million displaced. Adding insult to injury, the crown Princess Shigeko was badly burnt
Woah...that was as fun as nuclear...yeah like china japan house were wood and paper, that was something never seen before..
 
Wow, he must've done really well for Stalin to give him such a promotion just a year after trying to get rid of him. Those encirclements are going to hurt the Chinese badly. Have they even experienced losing many men at once to encirclement in this war yet?

They lost around a million men in the Beijing pocket at the start of the war.

If there's one thing that China has - it's men. Losing the tanks and equipment will hurt more.
 
Man, this war is going to be seen in a much grimmer light once it ends, compared to OTL WWII. France and England have the stain of allying with Imperial Japan, the USSR is more visibly an aggressor, and because Germany was on the defensive in the east and had an alliance of convenience with Poland they never got to go full genocidal like in OTL and thus the war against them won't be seen as black and white. I imagine that compared to OTL not many people will be prideful about their country's participation in it, when they look back at it in *2018 70 years down the line.

EDIT: BTW how is Germany's manpower and resource situation? The former is always precarious and the latter is an issue since they're blockaded by England (no little trade with China), at war with most of their neighbors, and now embargoed by the USA.
 
Man, this war is going to be seen in a much grimmer light once it ends, compared to OTL WWII. France and England have the stain of allying with Imperial Japan, the USSR is more visibly an aggressor, and because Germany was on the defensive in the east and had an alliance of convenience with Poland they never got to go full genocidal like in OTL and thus the war against them won't be seen as black and white. I imagine that compared to OTL not many people will be prideful about their country's participation in it, when they look back at it in *2018 70 years down the line.

EDIT: BTW how is Germany's manpower and resource situation? The former is always precarious and the latter is an issue since they're blockaded by England (no little trade with China), at war with most of their neighbors, and now embargoed by the USA.
Outside of the typical nationalistic flag waving, most people will no doubt look back at this war as mankind’s ultimate shame. Rather than the crusade against evil it was portrayed as OTL, it will be seen as an era of madness where evil men reigned and good men who could have stopped the madness stood back and watched (looking at you US).
 
Man, this war is going to be seen in a much grimmer light once it ends, compared to OTL WWII. France and England have the stain of allying with Imperial Japan, the USSR is more visibly an aggressor, and because Germany was on the defensive in the east and had an alliance of convenience with Poland they never got to go full genocidal like in OTL and thus the war against them won't be seen as black and white. I imagine that compared to OTL not many people will be prideful about their country's participation in it, when they look back at it in *2018 70 years down the line.

EDIT: BTW how is Germany's manpower and resource situation? The former is always precarious and the latter is an issue since they're blockaded by England (no little trade with China), at war with most of their neighbors, and now embargoed by the USA.

Every country is approaching exhaustion point at this stage. Germany has 3 months of fuel left for combat use. China is on the teeth of facing a massive famine if they don't get US help. The Soviets are running out of oil after Chinese putting the baku fields out of action before being encircled. The French and Brit troops just want to go home. The Japanese economy needs american oil and steel since a trotskyist insurgency is in full swing in the former Dutch colonies. Mussolini is hanging on by a thread
 
Even with the help of Persian collaborators, I still find it really implausible that the Chinese got as far as Baku. maybe a raiding force, but an entire 200 000 man army? Even if Chiang built up logistics in China proper, he's not going to have access to them two thousand kilometers away. Maybe hitting the eastern shore of the Caspian sea is believable, but going all the way around the south coast through crap Persian infrastructure is implausible.

In any case. I hope the oil facilities there are at least somewhat reparable.

EDIT: How's the soviet air force? Any possibility of them bombing the Romanian oil fields from a distance?
 
Even with the help of Persian collaborators, I still find it really implausible that the Chinese got as far as Baku. maybe a raiding force, but an entire 200 000 man army? Even if Chiang built up logistics in China proper, he's not going to have access to them two thousand kilometers away. Maybe hitting the eastern shore of the Caspian sea is believable, but going all the way around the south coast through crap Persian infrastructure is implausible.

In any case. I hope the oil facilities there are at least somewhat reparable.

EDIT: How's the soviet air force? Any possibility of them bombing the Romanian oil fields from a distance?

The Blood and Iron line helps a bit with logistics, if it bothers you, you can just pretend that both Soviet and Chinese sources are exaggerating the troop numbers for their own purposes and that the closer number is 50,000.

The Soviet Air force has struggled against the Luftwaffe so far since the Franco-British air force has had to split it's attention and the Luftwaffe hasn't been bombed to shit by the USAF. But Ploetsi is in artillery range which is why Germany only has 3 months of fuel left even with Ploetsi.
 
Glorious, glorious. We were all expecting a nuke, which would have been a tad unoriginal, and instead you have the Chinese burning the faces off everyone. I do wonder if the naplam bomb would really be effective if it detonated several feet off the ground. I am wondering how far the stuff would spread if buildings were in the way. Anyways, one of my first thoughts when we were all predicting nukes? It would bound to be hard for them to make a steady supply, and the Germans would try making their own. Not giong to be the most useful against the Soviets given dampness, but this stuff is defiantly going to be dropped on any army the Japanese drop off on the coast.
 
The Blood and Iron line helps a bit with logistics, if it bothers you, you can just pretend that both Soviet and Chinese sources are exaggerating the troop numbers for their own purposes and that the closer number is 50,000.
I think Imma go with that. ;)

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Chinese firebombing everything and Japanese do the Black Death bioweapons.

I could see even Hitler and Stalin started to have cold sweats over this. Death toll to both China and Japan would be in tens of millions, possibly hundred millions combined with lingering effects of reignited Black Plagues in Asia. Possibly spread into already devastated India where they would get hit the hardest out of irony.

I could see it may ironically scared the Europeans straight on how deep a modern grudge match war could end up in such mutual destruction.
 
Chinese firebombing everything and Japanese do the Black Death bioweapons.

I could see even Hitler and Stalin started to have cold sweats over this. Death toll to both China and Japan would be in tens of millions, possibly hundred millions combined with lingering effects of reignited Black Plagues in Asia. Possibly spread into already devastated India where they would get hit the hardest out of irony.

I could see it may ironically scared the Europeans straight on how deep a modern grudge match war could end up in such mutual destruction.
Keep in mind, the Black Death in Europe was so devastating because of decades upon decades of storms, frost, and generally erratic weather, which made everything soggy, starved the population, and had them huddle indoors, where rats eventually went to keep warm. I imagine that the Soviets would quarantine areas pretty quickly, though perhaps they would still get through to the areas in Central Asia that apparently broke form the soviets here, unless I misunderstood the things about Uzbeks. Anyways, it would be pretty far for people to run across Asia to get to Europe, without being stopped by men or nature.


Ahh, and anyone know if any of those biological warfare labs were in Japan, or just occupied China? I can see some of the bombings accidentally releasing the rats.
 
Outside of the typical nationalistic flag waving, most people will no doubt look back at this war as mankind’s ultimate shame. Rather than the crusade against evil it was portrayed as OTL, it will be seen as an era of madness where evil men reigned and good men who could have stopped the madness stood back and watched (looking at you US).
Actually I think that given the Grey-vs-Grey nature of this war, if anything the U.S. is going to double down on isolationism post-war in TTL. Pass some new laws that restrict the sale of anything besides food and medical supplies to countries at war, so that there will be no more profiting off other people dying but certainly not getting more involved. After all when looking back, what should the U.S. have done differently instead? Declare war on both sides?
 
It's grey and grey but not equal shades. Britain, Japan and Soviet Union are more outright dark than grey, while China is light grey there. Yes napalming cities is a war crime but they did that after Japan (that acted as a colonial bully for decades before...) bombed their coastal cities, destroyed dams, caused famine and raped Nanking.

So I think China might look at this war with pride later (the same way Russia looks at the Great Patriotic War).

Germany and Italy might be proud of helping their Chinese ally against a war of aggression and of protecting Eastern Europe, while massively embarrassed about the Jew Exile, invasion of Low Countries, Denmark, Norway and Greece (especially Greece, the other invasions can be partly blamed on the Anglo-French but invasion of Greece was naked imperialism). Britain, France and Russia would be ashamed for everything (or deep in negationism...).
 
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