Chiang Kai-Shek goes to Germany: An Axis China Timeline

Didnt realize those other posts where from awhile ago

Not to worry. We're going to wrap up the war very soon. After that I'm hoping to do a few new threads similar to the timeline in a week political TLs (think shuffling the deck)
- The Presidents of China
- The Fuhrers of Germany
- The Presidents of the USA
- The Prime Ministers of New Zealand
 
I was going to ask, how could the Chinese get Sherman tanks since they are supposed to be surrounded by the Entente, and was going to suggest that a few Panzer 4s that came through the railroad before Iran fell were more believable...

But then realized. You are going to have the IJN attack American merchant ships or even the Philippines in desperation, and get the US against the Entente, aren't you?
 
I was going to ask, how could the Chinese get Sherman tanks since they are supposed to be surrounded by the Entente, and was going to suggest that a few Panzer 4s that came through the railroad before Iran fell were more believable...

But then realized. You are going to have the IJN attack American merchant ships or even the Philippines in desperation, and get the US against the Entente, aren't you?

The Americans just ignore everyone's blockade. Because they supply critical war material to every power nobody wants to fuck with their merchant shipping.
 
So, what exactly are the sides of the war? I am a bit confused. But awesome thread!

Entente:
France
UK and her Commonwealth (India, Australia, NZ, Canada etc)
Japan
Netherlands (Occupied)
Belgium (Occupied)
Greece (Occupied)

and
Comintern:
Soviet Union
Manchuria
Mongolia
Tanna Tuva

vs
Axis:
Germany
China
Italy
Bulgaria
Romania
Hungary
Slovakia
Poland (Occupied)
Yugoslavia
Persia (Occupied)

It's worth noting that the Comintern and Entente are allies of convenience atm. Stalin literally induced Manchuria to switch to the Comintern.
 
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Well, the European Axis invaded neutrals and committed some atrocities, but

1 ) Japan actually sank a US ship and then tried to frame China
2 ) There are Commies on the Entente side
3 ) There will be mounting reports of Soviet crimes in China, Persia and Eastern Europe

So if the USA picks a side, it might be declaring war on Japan and Soviet Union when they do something stupid. Stalin won't, he is far from stupid.

The Japanese, as they see the NRA now rolling over them with US oil and weapons, might get desperate (because of the humiliation entailed by Soviet takeover of Manchuria followed by a Chinese victory), and try to stop US supplies to China.

Maybe some IJN hardliners try to stop a US convoy, without firing at first. A jerk racist US Captain thinks they are bluffing and tells them off. The IJN hardliners feel insulted and open fire.

Then, the USA declare war on Japan, and Congress quickly extends it to Soviet Union. While France and UK rush to get a ceasefire with Germany, Italy and China.
 

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The Americans just ignore everyone's blockade. Because they supply critical war material to every power nobody wants to fuck with their merchant shipping.


the Americans accepted the concept of Contraband since the American Civil war any entente ship could stop any American ship and require it to go to a Admiralty court for a decision on the status of its cargo. In practise cargos would simply be purchased.
 
1943 - July to December - the European Front
1943 - July to December - the European Front

West Europe:
The “Chinese Disaster” or “Churchill’s Folly” as the broadsheets proclaim fatally weakens Churchill. A repeated string of would-be Prime Ministers successively fail to gain the confidence of the house: Eden, Halifax, Wood, Beaverbrook and desperately - Attlee. The King is forced to dissolve parliament and call for a new election on July 30.

The election results saw a polarized electorate with a collapsing center and increase in radicalism. The two parties which had gained the most: The British Union of Fascists and the British Workers Party had consistently opposed the war from the onset. Mosley’s British Union of Fascists because Mosley was an admirer of the German, Italian and Chinese systems and the British Worker’s Party because they were taking directions from Trotsky in Mexico City and genuinely saw the war as an Imperialist one and the Soviet Union as a deformed workers state that was now just imperialist power.

During the confusion, the British-army naturally ceased offensive operations. After reclaiming much of Belgium and a portion of the Netherlands, she sat with her French allies in an uneasy cold war against the Germans who stared at them from across the West Wall.

After months of indecision and paralysis the troops received news on Christmas Day - Lord Anthony Eden had successfully formed a government and they would continue the war.


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Soviet troops counter-attacking Axis troops in the Operation Summer Awakening. Marshall Tukhachevsky's counter-attacks and skillful fighting retreat saved the bulk of the Soviet Hungarian Army Front
East Europe:
The combination of temporary reprieve Germany received on her Western Front as well as the withdrawal of several Soviet Armies to the Sino-Soviet and Sino-Manchurian borders allowed Germany to salvage the strategic situation. Armies transferred from the west allowed Operation Summer Awakening to begin in earnest on July 15. This was a massive operation with two combined Axis armies of Italian, Hungarian, Romanian, Slovakian, Yugoslavian and Polish troops spearheaded by German armor. There were two army groups - Army Group Center (Rundstedt) driving east from Ostrava would be tasked with capturing Katowice, Krakow and Rzezow before turning south to Kosice. The other driving north - Army Group South (Manstein) from Timasora would be tasked with capturing Arad, Oradea and Satu Mare before swinging north to Kosice and then linking hands with the Army Group Center. The combined total of the two fronts were around 3 million men.

While some Soviet troops had been transferred further East, there was still a large number of battle-hardened and effective troops led by Marshal Mikail Tukhachevsky ready to oppose with around 2.5 million men. However, Axis air superiority was enabled by the relative quiet on the western front and there was a lack of Soviet intelligence about Axis plans - forcing the soviets to disperse the troops across the front. Furthermore, a large portion of Soviet troops were also busy continuing the siege of budapest so many of his best troops were being ground up in the conflict. Furthermore, his disfavour by Stalin also meant that many of the best reinforcements and supplies were being directed north to Marshall Zhukov.

Nonetheless, Tukhachevsky fought skillfully - he successfully saw the trap that the Germans were attempting to lay before him and launched several counter-offensives to delay the Germans and began retreating his troops from Hungary. He defied Stalin’s orders to defend and conducted an exemplary fighting retreat from Hungary. Although he suffered 500,000 casualties compared to the 200,000 Axis troops - the bulk of his army front had escaped intact.

After being hauled to the capital along with Marshall Zhukov (Polish Army Front) and Marshall Budonny (Romanian Army Front) - he endured a telling off and a denunciation by Stalin. To Stalin and his surprise - Marshall Zhukov and then Marshall Budonny stuck up for him. While the three men were rivals - they had all experienced the fear and terror of the purges and did not want political considerations to override common sense. Zhukov said he would have done the same thing and asked Budonny if he would’ve done any different. Choosing his words more carefully than Zhukov had, commander Budonny said that Stalin was always right, but that he did not see if he would’ve made a different decision than Zhukov.

Fuming with rage, Stalin had ordered them all out. Finally the three men got their orders - the Hungarian Front would be dissolved and split up between Zhukov and Budonny and the Polish Front and the Romanian Front. Marshall Tukhachevsky would be demoted for insubordination and sent to command command the Soviet and Mongolian troops in the Sino-Mongolian border.

Up next: 1943 The Asian Fronts
 
Well, the European Axis invaded neutrals and committed some atrocities, but

1 ) Japan actually sank a US ship and then tried to frame China
2 ) There are Commies on the Entente side
3 ) There will be mounting reports of Soviet crimes in China, Persia and Eastern Europe

So if the USA picks a side, it might be declaring war on Japan and Soviet Union when they do something stupid. Stalin won't, he is far from stupid.

The Japanese, as they see the NRA now rolling over them with US oil and weapons, might get desperate (because of the humiliation entailed by Soviet takeover of Manchuria followed by a Chinese victory), and try to stop US supplies to China.

Maybe some IJN hardliners try to stop a US convoy, without firing at first. A jerk racist US Captain thinks they are bluffing and tells them off. The IJN hardliners feel insulted and open fire.

Then, the USA declare war on Japan, and Congress quickly extends it to Soviet Union. While France and UK rush to get a ceasefire with Germany, Italy and China.

Also, if this happens (Japan provokes the USA into war, and US Congress extends DoW to Soviet Union), I can see the USA rescuing Germany, Italy, Austria, Czechia, and maybe Greece and Yugoslavia from Soviet invasion, as well as China.

Then, Stalin cuts his losses and negociates a peace (throwing Japan under the bus), keeping Romania, Poland, and maybe Hungary, Slovakia and Bulgaria.

Then, Operation Downfall happens...
 
1943 The Asian Fronts
1943 The Asian Fronts
After the crushing of the Leizhou peninsula, China conveniently finished the investigation on July 4. In the report, China blamed Chiang’s kidnapping squarely on Stalin and the Soviet Union - rejecting the Soviet assertion that it was a rogue NKVD operation with Mongolian complicity. They made a list of extremely insulting demands which were calculated to be rejected including: the handing over to China for trial of Stalin, Beria and key soviet leaders, reparations to the tune of $1 trillion USD, Soviet acceptance of Chinese suzerainty over Manchuria and the end of the independence of the so-called “People’s Republic of Manchuria,” Soviet acceptance over Chinese suzerainty over Mongolia, Soviet evacuation from the Empire of Persia and the restoration of the dynasty. The Soviet Union had 10 days to comply with the Chinese demands in full or face a declaration of War.

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Chinese NRA troops crouching behind a knocked out M4 Sherman
Manchuria:
The Soviet reply came in a massive offensive against the Chinese lines which stretched from Beijing to Tianjin on July 10. Over 3 million Soviet and Manchurian troops commanded by Marshal Timoshenko hurled themselves against 4 million NRA troops commanded by Masrhal Du Yumming (promoted as commander of the Northern Expedition Army after his exemplary performance in the Battle of Beiping in 1942) in a gargantuan battle. While the Soviets were expecting a cake-walk, they found anything but that. Even though of the 4 million, only 2 were regular troops and 2 million were Civil Protection units of unsteady quality - the Chinese had dug in behind ample fortifications, had aerial superiority and were equipped with new, reliable weaponry. The Chinese assault armored cavalry divisions in the Northern sector were veterans equipped with new M4 Shermans that had proven their worth in the battles across the Leizhou Peninsula. Some Chinese infantry and Civil Protection units had the new Panzerfaust and Panzershreck anti-tank infantry weapons which were dangerous to the T-34s at all sides. By late September, Soviet forces had exhausted themselves against the Chinese lines and the front descended into a weary stalemate as the fall rains began.

Mongolia:
General Tukachevsky had his work cut out for him as the demoralized Soviet and Mongolian armies in the Sino-Mongolian border had been subjected to a round of purges for their failure in preventing the rescue of Chiang. Furthermore, the front had been stripped of much equipment, good troops and weaponry as these got absord to either Manchuria or Europe. Nonetheless, Tukachevesky began an intensive program of raids and probing attacks with the forces he had - stressing the also mostly poorly equipped Chinese forces at the border which were mostly Civil Protection Units, low quality NRA troops or NRA troops that had been recycled out of the active front-lines for garrison duty.

Indochina:
Chinese forces remained content to stare at the French and Japanese troops across the Sino-Indochinese border, mounting occasional raids and using the porous border to send supplies across the Guerilla resistance.

Burma-Indian Front:
The original plan for Burma was for the 1st Indian National Army, a force of 150,000 men consisting of exiles, rebels, formers prisoners of War and other various Indians to make an aggressive probe to gather reconissance and then withdraw. In this, they would be supported by General Sun Li Jen’s army of around 500,000 troops. The closer that Bose got to India, the more that British India seemed to erupt in revolution with strikes, civil disobedience and outright mutinies threatening British control over India. With Britain distracted with the of the election and having to put together a government - there seemed to be no coherent response. However, Bose’s army attractive massive support with many British Indian Army formations defecting en masse with the few Commonwealth troops either being quickly surrounded and overcome by a hostile population and outright withdrawing. By December Bose’s army had advanced as far as Kharagpur in West Bengal, liberating Burma, Benga and Sikkim and proclaiming the Republic of India in Calcutta on 15 December 1943. However, despite the optimism of Bose's new India, the Republic inherited a massive humanitarian disaster with a massive famine that had killed more than 4 million in Bengal. The causes of the Bengal Famine are well debated at this point - British incompetence, Chinese bombing, guerrilla sabotage of supply lines, Capitalism, war profiteering etc etc - as is the exact death toll with British historians estimating 1 million and Chinese/German historians exagerrating the death toll up to 10 million - but whatever the cause - China now had to deal with feeding a massive, starving population - when she had very little surplus food. Of course predictably - Axis propaganda made massive mileage of this discovery. Goebells sent Leni Reifenstahl and a film crew and the sight of pathetic, starving families filled the film screens of the Axis territories and neutral countries.

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Images liked this was prevalently used by Axis propaganda as a symbol of Entente misrule and oppression.

Into this void stepped in Madame Chiang Kai-shek. Leveraging her friendship with former first Lady Eleanor Roosevelt who was still influential despite her husband’s passing earlier in 1943, the China lobby in the US organized massive food drives and relief. Of course, it goes without saying that the Chinese government embezzled between 1/3rd - 2/3rds of the food and supplies donated - but the combination of some aid going through and some independently supervised aid relief by the International Red Cross alleviated the worst of the famine.

With British rule disintegrating, Stalin sent armies across the Persian-Iranian border, ostensibly to assist her British ally - but covertly began drawing the more leftist members of the Indian National Congress and various politicians across the territories she was 'providing garrison duties.' The only place where British rule still held some sway was in the South where the princes of India had their own private armies and held fast to the nominal British rule.


Central Asia:
Central Asia was the unexpected thrust of the Ma Bufeng’s reformed cavalry armies. Equipped with the new M4 Shermans - these elite troops - a combination of cavalry, tanks and some crack mountain troops drove into the Kyrgstan and Tajikstan SSRs - managing to go all the way through to Dushanbe and Tashkent by the end of the year despite heavy Soviet resistance from the limited garrisons there.
 
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