Chiang Kai-Shek goes to Germany: An Axis China Timeline
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Wyragen-TXRG4P
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TJqOCUhZOM
One gotta wonder how fast genetical science would have progressed with real efforts being put into it. China would not have any "ethical" problems to the question of it being applied to the next level, as for the 3rd Reich, well...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TJqOCUhZOM
One gotta wonder how fast genetical science would have progressed with real efforts being put into it. China would not have any "ethical" problems to the question of it being applied to the next level, as for the 3rd Reich, well...
no Ethical Problems?
the Mongols, Zhuang, Manchus, Uygars, and all are sad to here that.
Wyragen-TXRG4P
Banned
How far will China expand in the course of WW2?
Interesting if China expanded far and wide after many battles, up and downs, except there are more ups than downs.
Interesting if China expanded far and wide after many battles, up and downs, except there are more ups than downs.
Evilprodigy
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I just ready the first 3 pages and i really like this thread, consider me subscribed
Evilprodigy
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Well i just finished reading the whole thread an i love it, i really hope this is not dead... teh last update had so much build of for Pearl Harbour in China that this would be a terrible spot to cut off the TL
I wonder if France and Britain would be willing to look the other way about Japanese imperialism to help keep the lid on China? If so, it could be an interesting three-way strike on China from all directions, and five if the Entente can get the Soviet Union friendly as well as any communists/dissidents in China.
Evilprodigy
Donor
I believe it was posted somewhere before that TTL will have an entente Japan so that would make sense, but the Soviet Union is on very good ground with china plus a siberian front would be hell for them to work with if they are at war with Germany so most likely the USSR will just watch the show
The Night That Would live in Infamy
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Scores of Japanese bombers like this would lay waste to Chinese naval capability
The Night That Would live in Infamy
"
Yi Ding was happy.
Tonight was the night of her graduation from the Amoy Naval Academy. She was a pioneer, one of the first women to successfully complete submarine training.
She blushed with pride as she scanned the crowd in front of her. She sat at the front row in the stage with her other comrades spread around. Her parents and her brother were seated at the front, their eyes beaming with pride. At the lectern in the stage stood none other than "Madame Chiang Kai-Shek" - the spouse of the most powerful man in China.
As cameras began flashing at the front of the stage, Madame Chiang spoke: "Tonight, I'm proud to honour the pioneers of China - this National Revolutionary Movement of ours has been created to change China and make it a more progressive place. The people standing before you today are living proof of the change that has taken place and more change to come..."
As Madame Chiang spoke there was an increasingly loud buzzing in the air, getting closer and closer to the Amoy Academy. Suddenly there were flashes of light and bits of the night sky lit up.
To the horror and astonishment of many of the audience in the air was a horde of Japanese planes..."
- A Woman's War: Women in the Navy
"The attack was a complete and total surprise which fulfilled Japanese expectations widely and then some. Unbeknownst to the Japanese High Command, much of the top brass of the Chinese Naval Forces was present in Amoy for fleet exercises and were in attendance for the graduation of China's first femae submariners. The attack not only successfully sunk 90% of China's surface fleet, it also successfully 'decapitated' Chinese Naval leadership. In the short term, this allowed Japanese dominance of China and allowed Japan to enforce a total blockade of all trade (except that of America's) in the long term, the loss of so many trained cadres meant that the Chinese Naval programme could not proceed at the pace that it was originally expected..."
- The Second Great War, Yi Zhang
"
HDB: This is Hainan Defence Battery #5 requesting permission to fire on incoming wave of suspected Japanese invasion Over.
Hainan Command HQ: Permission denied. Continue observation.
HDB: With all due respect if we don't fire -
Hainan Command HQ: Permission denied. Continue observation...
Hainan Command HQ: This is Hainan Command HQ to General HQ. Requesting permission to engage.
General HQ: Negative. Strict orders not to engage in provocation.
Hainan Command HQ: Confirmed reports of hostile fire. Hainan Defence Batteries 1, 2, 6 and 10 have reported shelling.
General HQ: Permission granted to engage in test firing. Do not engage deliberately.
"
- Hainan: Island of Heroes TV Show
"...With Madame Chiang in serious peril, Chiang was paralyzed with grief. As Supreme Commander in Chief, Chiang had the authority to order the general mobilization of the Chinese military and place all units on high alert... Chiang's paralysis and indicision - with many frantic requests from High Command and urgent pleas from his close friends turned away as Chiang wallowed in grief - may have led to the needless deaths of millions of Chinese and doomed the world to a general conflagration. If it were not for the creative interpretation of "Test Firing" orders by the local initiative of many NRA units then the initial Japanese invasion my have achieved it's goal of "Strangling China in the Night."
- Chiang: The Man and the Myth, Bao Chengdu
"
TO: THE GERMAN FOREIGN MINISTRY
FROM: GERMAN NANKING EMBASSY
Dated: 02/12/37
JAPANESE ATTACK CONFIRMED. STOP. AMOY NAVAL BASE DESTROYED. STOP. ALL CAPITAL SHIPS SUNK. STOP. MADAME CHIANG CRITICALLY WOUNDED. STOP. INVASION ALL OVER THE COAST. STOP. HAINAN EXPECTED TO FALL. STOP. BEIPING COULD FALL. STOP.
"
Tommorow's Update: A Speech to Remember
Hope you have a wonderful one and thank you for all your kind comments and feedback_______________________________________________________
Scores of Japanese bombers like this would lay waste to Chinese naval capability
The Night That Would live in Infamy
"
Yi Ding was happy.
Tonight was the night of her graduation from the Amoy Naval Academy. She was a pioneer, one of the first women to successfully complete submarine training.
She blushed with pride as she scanned the crowd in front of her. She sat at the front row in the stage with her other comrades spread around. Her parents and her brother were seated at the front, their eyes beaming with pride. At the lectern in the stage stood none other than "Madame Chiang Kai-Shek" - the spouse of the most powerful man in China.
As cameras began flashing at the front of the stage, Madame Chiang spoke: "Tonight, I'm proud to honour the pioneers of China - this National Revolutionary Movement of ours has been created to change China and make it a more progressive place. The people standing before you today are living proof of the change that has taken place and more change to come..."
As Madame Chiang spoke there was an increasingly loud buzzing in the air, getting closer and closer to the Amoy Academy. Suddenly there were flashes of light and bits of the night sky lit up.
To the horror and astonishment of many of the audience in the air was a horde of Japanese planes..."
- A Woman's War: Women in the Navy
"The attack was a complete and total surprise which fulfilled Japanese expectations widely and then some. Unbeknownst to the Japanese High Command, much of the top brass of the Chinese Naval Forces was present in Amoy for fleet exercises and were in attendance for the graduation of China's first femae submariners. The attack not only successfully sunk 90% of China's surface fleet, it also successfully 'decapitated' Chinese Naval leadership. In the short term, this allowed Japanese dominance of China and allowed Japan to enforce a total blockade of all trade (except that of America's) in the long term, the loss of so many trained cadres meant that the Chinese Naval programme could not proceed at the pace that it was originally expected..."
- The Second Great War, Yi Zhang
"
HDB: This is Hainan Defence Battery #5 requesting permission to fire on incoming wave of suspected Japanese invasion Over.
Hainan Command HQ: Permission denied. Continue observation.
HDB: With all due respect if we don't fire -
Hainan Command HQ: Permission denied. Continue observation...
Hainan Command HQ: This is Hainan Command HQ to General HQ. Requesting permission to engage.
General HQ: Negative. Strict orders not to engage in provocation.
Hainan Command HQ: Confirmed reports of hostile fire. Hainan Defence Batteries 1, 2, 6 and 10 have reported shelling.
General HQ: Permission granted to engage in test firing. Do not engage deliberately.
"
- Hainan: Island of Heroes TV Show
"...With Madame Chiang in serious peril, Chiang was paralyzed with grief. As Supreme Commander in Chief, Chiang had the authority to order the general mobilization of the Chinese military and place all units on high alert... Chiang's paralysis and indicision - with many frantic requests from High Command and urgent pleas from his close friends turned away as Chiang wallowed in grief - may have led to the needless deaths of millions of Chinese and doomed the world to a general conflagration. If it were not for the creative interpretation of "Test Firing" orders by the local initiative of many NRA units then the initial Japanese invasion my have achieved it's goal of "Strangling China in the Night."
- Chiang: The Man and the Myth, Bao Chengdu
"
TO: THE GERMAN FOREIGN MINISTRY
FROM: GERMAN NANKING EMBASSY
Dated: 02/12/37
JAPANESE ATTACK CONFIRMED. STOP. AMOY NAVAL BASE DESTROYED. STOP. ALL CAPITAL SHIPS SUNK. STOP. MADAME CHIANG CRITICALLY WOUNDED. STOP. INVASION ALL OVER THE COAST. STOP. HAINAN EXPECTED TO FALL. STOP. BEIPING COULD FALL. STOP.
"
Tommorow's Update: A Speech to Remember
Evilprodigy
Donor
ITS ALIVE!!!!
The begining of the Japanese invasion of China should be quite the interesting read, oh and 90% of the chinese navy? Good lord how is china supposed to fight back at Japan with such a crippling blow.
The begining of the Japanese invasion of China should be quite the interesting read, oh and 90% of the chinese navy? Good lord how is china supposed to fight back at Japan with such a crippling blow.
Sweet! It's back!
A little bit of me died inside when Iread that update. I'd grown to love the Chinese Navy of TTL. The Chinese is going to have to hit back somehow. Anyways, nice update.
Hint - surface navy
U-boat warfare that slowly strangles Japan to death? Sweet.
Hmmmm. It's going to be quite interesting to see how Hitler reacts to this turn of events. Considering that he's a close friend of Chiang, the grave injuries to Chiang's wife will probably make it kind of personal for Hitler. The question is, exactly what, if anything, can Germany do to help China? Even U-boats will take weeks to reach the theater of operations, and I doubt the Germans have any significant sealift capability in 1937.