Charles VII is killed during the assassination of John the Fearless

Could the Burgundians escort kill Charles the VII after the assassination of John the Fearless

What would be the impact on the 100 years war

What would happen to France

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_John_the_Fearless

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_VII_of_France
What an utter disaster for France, as the line of Valois going back to Charles, Count of Valois, the son of King Philip III and brother of King Philip IV, is completely extinguished. At this point, there is very little keeping Henry V of England to simply claim the throne the minute Charles VI died. Beyond Charles the Dauphin, it looks like the next closest male-line successor would descend from Charles's uncle, the murdered Duke Louis of Orléans, to his son, the current Duke Charles of Orléans. However, Charles of Orléans is a prisoner of Henry V in England, having been captured at Agincourt, and was far too valuable a prisoner for Henry to ever release. Ironically, his line did inherit the crown of France in OTL when his son Louis was crowned Louis XII. Worse, his younger brother Philip would die Young the following year in 1420, while the third brother was also a prisoner of the English following Agincourt.

So realistically, anyone who wants to challenge Henry's rise to the French throne would probably find themselves rallying around Duke Charles's brother Philip, Count of Vertu's, and unless this guy's life is spared by the butterflies, them the French are really scrambling for the next male-line successor, which likely goes back all the way to Louis IX.
 
My mistake actually, if everyone I mentioned is out of commission and Philip, the brother of Charles of Orléans, dies on schedule, the next male-line successor would be the then-current Louis III of Naples, who traces his descent back to King John II of France through his father Louis, who's own father was Louis, Duke of Anjou second son of John after Charles V.
 
The actual person of Jehanne, from a village of Domrèmy, is certainly still around, but she specifically had visions to aid the Dauphin Charles regain the throne from the English. Of course, Charles is the face of the opposition to English aggression and based in Chinon. Assuming Jehanne is tasked with the same mission from God here with no Dauphin and the next two leading candidates to the throne firmly locked away in England, who does Jehanne need to seek out according to her revised visions? Next after the Orléans brothers Charles and John would be Louis of Anjou, who is out trying to regain his father's Neapolitan throne....

....it would be René of Anjou, Louis' younger brother. He would be 4th in line and would already be in Lorraine, where he was the heir to both the Duchy of Bar and the Duchy of Lorraine. He grew up to be a supporter of Charles VII in OTL and was present at his crowning at Reims. He's a youngster too, only 3 years older than Jehanne. If this peasant girl could correctly identify this kid, warn him of the impending danger he is in (since I have to imagine the English and Burgundians know exactly who René is and what he now represents), she could still, somehow, miraculously, help save France from the English. Maybe there won't specifically be a miracle at Orléans like in OTL, but something similar instead that turns it all around.
 
The actual person of Jehanne, from a village of Domrèmy, is certainly still around, but she specifically had visions to aid the Dauphin Charles regain the throne from the English. Of course, Charles is the face of the opposition to English aggression and based in Chinon. Assuming Jehanne is tasked with the same mission from God here with no Dauphin and the next two leading candidates to the throne firmly locked away in England, who does Jehanne need to seek out according to her revised visions? Next after the Orléans brothers Charles and John would be Louis of Anjou, who is out trying to regain his father's Neapolitan throne....

....it would be René of Anjou, Louis' younger brother. He would be 4th in line and would already be in Lorraine, where he was the heir to both the Duchy of Bar and the Duchy of Lorraine. He grew up to be a supporter of Charles VII in OTL and was present at his crowning at Reims. He's a youngster too, only 3 years older than Jehanne. If this peasant girl could correctly identify this kid, warn him of the impending danger he is in (since I have to imagine the English and Burgundians know exactly who René is and what he now represents), she could still, somehow, miraculously, help save France from the English. Maybe there won't specifically be a miracle at Orléans like in OTL, but something similar instead that turns it all around.
Or the Anjous die/get too busy in Naples and Philip the Good of Burgundy becomes heir... right? Or am I missing someone?
 
Or the Anjous die/get too busy in Naples and Philip the Good of Burgundy becomes heir... right? Or am I missing someone?
The Anjou line is senior to the Burgundian line, as the Burgundians descended from John II's youngest son while the Anjous descended from one of his middle sons.
 
The Anjou line is senior to the Burgundian line, as the Burgundians descended from John II's youngest son while the Anjous descended from one of his middle sons.
Hence the first bit of the sentence - IF the Anjous are out, then. Of course that may be a mite much in terms of changes.
 
Hence the first bit of the sentence - IF the Anjous are out, then. Of course that may be a mite much in terms of changes.
It's funny how the French were quite nearly on the verge of their own version of the Wars of the Roses about a full half century before the OTL English version, and over the regency needed due to the inability of a mentally ill monarch to rule.

The Burgundians had to have known that should the Orléans and Anjou branches die out, then they would be next up. If the Dauphin is killed in 1420, with two of the Orléans brothers indisposed of with the third dying shortly thereafter (possibly being kept captive by the English with the help of Burgundian money?), Louis of Anjou somewhere in Italy, and a young René of Anjou out and about in Lorraine, the Burgundians could position themselves as the next legitimate claimants to the throne.

However, the English still have them by the balls. Should the Burgundians even attempt to make a move for the throne themselves, the English could easily accept ransom for Charles and John of Orléans and let the loose against the Burgundians, biding their time for the two factions to wear themselves out while positioning themselves as the faction who will finally bring peace and stability to France through the legally recognized heir, Henry.
 
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