charles, duke of Cambridge (born 1660) survives

She would have been old enough to be his mum, though. Charlie born 1660, Sophia born 1630.

Maybe her daughter Sophia Charlotte, who would subsequently IOTL become Queen of Prussia? She was born 1668.
 
Would that marriage be encouraged by Charles II. Given the lack of apparent benefit one would get from it other than a Protestant duchess of cambridge
Maybe that's all that would be required by Parliament. A protestant bride isn't going to attempt to bring her husband to Catholicism as parliament may view it.
 
She would have been old enough to be his mum, though. Charlie born 1660, Sophia born 1630.

Maybe her daughter Sophia Charlotte, who would subsequently IOTL become Queen of Prussia? She was born 1668.
Yeah I think that’s who Plantagenet was on about

Maybe that's all that would be required by Parliament. A protestant bride isn't going to attempt to bring her husband to Catholicism as parliament may view it.
This is true, though Charles might look to an alliance with France especially during a Anglo Dutch war
 
If the Glorious Revolution was spurred on IOTL by the fact that Parliament objected to the Heir Apparent being Catholic, then presumably with a Protestant Charlie lined up for the throne, what would push Parliament to support or tolerate a similar movement to put Charlie on the throne whilst Daddy was still alive?

Could Daddy try to disinherit the Protestant children from Wife 1 in favour (and influenced) of those children by Wife 2. Parliament pushes back, requests abdication in favour of Charlie and refuses to recognise the disinheritance - but Daddy refuses to back down. Parliament and King are at loggerheads - Bring on thr Glorious Revolution.
 
If the Glorious Revolution was spurred on IOTL by the fact that Parliament objected to the Heir Apparent being Catholic, then presumably with a Protestant Charlie lined up for the throne, what would push Parliament to support or tolerate a similar movement to put Charlie on the throne whilst Daddy was still alive?

Could Daddy try to disinherit the Protestant children from Wife 1 in favour (and influenced) of those children by Wife 2. Parliament pushes back, requests abdication in favour of Charlie and refuses to recognise the disinheritance - but Daddy refuses to back down. Parliament and King are at loggerheads - Bring on thr Glorious Revolution.
Hmm that’s where interesting, would James be that stupid as to go for disinheritsnce of his children by his first wife though? Considering he’d either have faced trouble with Monmouth or had his own place questioned due to his Catholicism. I mean he’s James wasn’t the brightest spark bu was he that dim?

Yep :D

Possibly, but I still think the Charles-Sophia marriage is a good idea.
Lol true, would you advise that James have more sons by Anne Hyde also?
 
Hmm that’s where interesting, would James be that stupid as to go for disinheritsnce of his children by his first wife though? Considering he’d either have faced trouble with Monmouth or had his own place questioned due to his Catholicism. I mean he’s James wasn’t the brightest spark bu was he that dim?

He would have had to have justification for it - What sort of political situation could have pushed him to that sort of declaration? If the Glorious Revolution occurs later on - a connection to the War of the Spanish Succession perhaps?
 
He would have had to have justification for it - What sort of political situation could have pushed him to that sort of declaration? If the Glorious Revolution occurs later on - a connection to the War of the Spanish Succession perhaps?
Hmm, perhaps his desire for a catholic dynasty to succeed him, opposition to ab alliance with France from his sons?
 
As to who’d serve as his governor as a kid, I imagine either the duke of Buckingham or perhaps his grandfather or uncle. I definitely think his uncles and cousins would be on his side in any dispute with his fsther
 
If he survived - and the Glorious Revolution occurs in the 1880's he'd be over twenty at the point of an succession disagreement. I think we'd be looking for someone who may be the better influence - or for dramatic license, the person who wasn't.

His childhood and teen years would have been whilst his father was still Duke of York - how influential would the Governor have been to someone who was only the Heir Apparent to the Heir Presumptive?
 
If he survived - and the Glorious Revolution occurs in the 1880's he'd be over twenty at the point of an succession disagreement. I think we'd be looking for someone who may be the better influence - or for dramatic license, the person who wasn't.

His childhood and teen years would have been whilst his father was still Duke of York - how influential would the Governor have been to someone who was only the Heir Apparent to the Heir Presumptive?

As in the Duke of Cambridge would be in his twenties when this disagreement occurs? Hmm this is true re the influence, as for the governor, pretty influential I think, given that they'd help shape the person's views.

For the lols you could have Shaftesbury be his governor, though having a Whig as a royal Prince's governor makes me break out in hives
 
Oh - I meant influential in that as only the Heir Apparent of the Heir Presumptive, would be be handed to A Grade academics or B Grade academics to shape him?

Henry VIII was influenced greatly and found a penpal in a (Dutch?) Academic who had a big influence on him in his youth, though not a formal tutor or governor.
 
Oh - I meant influential in that as only the Heir Apparent of the Heir Presumptive, would be be handed to A Grade academics or B Grade academics to shape him?

Henry VIII was influenced greatly and found a penpal in a (Dutch?) Academic who had a big influence on him in his youth, though not a formal tutor or governor.

Oh I get you, and I think as it becomes more apparent that Catherine of Braganza isn't having any children, that yes Charles' will get the grade A academics
 
Regarding the Duke of Cambridge, I see him be quite devoted to Anglicanism, a bit of a charmer, like his uncle, kind of stubborn like his father, and also, deft at political scenarios like his uncle.
 
What would happen to Monmouth in this scenario?

Presumably with a male protestant heir he wouldn't get quite the same traction.

So does he stand with his cousin or does he try and act as a magnet for people who don't want any form of catholicism near the throne etc.
 
What would happen to Monmouth in this scenario?

Presumably with a male protestant heir he wouldn't get quite the same traction.

So does he stand with his cousin or does he try and act as a magnet for people who don't want any form of catholicism near the throne etc.
In this scenario monmouths cause would have no traction with an Anglican heir. He may try but he’d fail worse than he did in OTL. His best bet is to stand by his cousin.
 
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